what on earth does electricity cost near you?

[3930dave]

I don't think we (the people of Ontario) ever 'owned' Hydro One/Ontario Hydro. I know I never saw any profits from it.

Like B&D said..... it's all about the Right People making money..... California was a good early example of what scams get run with utility restructuring; nobody here paid attention though.

The 3 of us are old enough to remember.... you used to be able to get on with your life and just do what you needed to, w/o having to take out a second mortgage to pay your electric bill....

Rgds, D.

 

[Looking4new]

And when hydro one has an overabundance of power they give it away to the US. Michigan, Ohio and I think New York.

 

[buickanddeere]

And when hydro one has an overabundance of power they give it away to the US. Michigan, Ohio and I think New York.

The electrical customers of Ontario PAY New York, Michigan, Ohio and Quebec to TAKE the surplus off peak power.

 

[3930dave]

Ka-CHING !

Hydro One signs blockbuster deal to buy U.S. utility Avista for $4.4-billion - The Globe and Mail

I esp. loved the CEO's comment re. moving outside of Ontario "The markets that we are entering have expanding economies, positive and growing customer demographics and constructive regulatory environments."

^^^ What my parents generation had here, back when.

Well, at least the M&A parasites will be happy....

Washington, Oregon, Idaho, Montana and Alaska - get ready to have your coal-fired plants shut down, and know that the "leadership" that controls this game here considers NatGas to be evil too.

Rgds, D.

 

[ultrarunner]

Just got the latest PG&E electric bill and when all said and done each kWh costs 25.5 cents... for average daily household use of 12 kWh per day...

 

[Gem99ultra]

Just got the latest PG&E electric bill and when all said and done each kWh costs 25.5 cents... for average daily household use of 12 kWh per day...

Here in mid-Georgia, 14.5/summer rate, 9.5/winter. Summer monthly runs us about $380/month for our 3000 sqft house. Winter runs about $140/month - but then you DO NOT want to use a heat pump around here! Heat pumps are not efficient, most especially at temps 40* and lower.

Propane is reasonable, so off goes our heat pump and on with propane heat, via gas powered fireplace or space heater, when the weather cools down.

 

[ultrarunner]

Here the kWh usage remains constant year round... it is 2400 square feet built in the late 1950's and average is 12 kWh per day... rare to have frost and rate for extreme heat but recently we had days of 100+ setting all time records... still no one around here has A/C...

Natural Gas for last month was $12 which is for hot water...

Have lots of oak on the property... can't burn in the winter due to spare the air days so most storm fall simply rots as there is no market for burn wood...

 

[dmccarty]

Just got the latest PG&E electric bill and when all said and done each kWh costs 25.5 cents... for average daily household use of 12 kWh per day...

WOW. That is over twice what we pay per KWH. For years we have been paying 11 to 12 cents per KWH.

Later,
Dan

 

[ultrarunner]

I've come to expect higher cost of living in the SF Bay Area... part of the reason is they can.

Not to get too far into the weeds but we had record rainfall with reservoirs overflowing... water district keeps increasing rates to make up for reduced usage... plus the record rainfall means hydro is in good shape.

A unit of water here is 748 gallons and quickly costs close to $7... almost a penny per gallon... not much expense for basic needs but much too expensive for irrigation...

The 86 year old widow down the block has a nice lawn area in back... she and her husband spent a lot of time and effort doing their own landscaping... the bill for the last 2 months is $800... granted it is summer but in an area with no A/C

Growing up the water bill was almost an afterthought... everyone had front and back lawns on their 5,000 square foot city lots... boy have things changed.

Also... it is about $2.20 per day for basic service BEFORE a drop of water is used...

Can only imagine the utility cost would be prohibitive for most is we lived in an area with heat or A/C year round...

 

[dmccarty]

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Can only imagine the utility cost would be prohibitive for most is we lived in an area with heat or A/C year round...

Yea, doubling our power bill would be a good car payment during an average month! :shocked: Last winter, we had to use power to heat the house since I have been too busy to make firewood so we had a couple of VERY high power bills. Doubling them would buy a very expensive vehicle. :shocked:

Later,
Dan