Hydraulics don't hold

   / Hydraulics don't hold
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Does not affect operation and no it doesn't make a difference if this is normal wanted to make sure I didn't have a failed part or needed to make some sort of adjustment to the machine
 
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Does not affect operation and no it doesn't make a difference if this is normal wanted to make sure I didn't have a failed part or needed to make some sort of adjustment to the machine

No harm in checking, but it is normal to a certain extent and it does vary from tractor to tractor.

My line of thinking is if it hinders operation, then it's a problem, otherwise just keep on working. ;)
 
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I have the same problem on my FEL and the dealer told me it was normal, CK 4010, the Hydraulics drain and the FEL lowers, it usually takes place over several hours. I never have had an issue in the rear, it has always stayed raised for days at a time, mine is just the FEL and it only caused an issue the first couple time after it crushed a 4 wheeler , after that I figured out what it was and just put the bucket down. It would be great to leave it raised for storage but it's not going to happen . As I mentioned my dealer said it was normal. 125 hrs on mine and it started doing it right out of the gate
 
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I have the same problem on my FEL and the dealer told me it was normal, CK 4010, the Hydraulics drain and the FEL lowers, it usually takes place over several hours. I never have had an issue in the rear, it has always stayed raised for days at a time, mine is just the FEL and it only caused an issue the first couple time after it crushed a 4 wheeler , after that I figured out what it was and just put the bucket down. It would be great to leave it raised for storage but it's not going to happen . As I mentioned my dealer said it was normal. 125 hrs on mine and it started doing it right out of the gate

If you want to store it raised, thats still doable. Just need a mechanical means of holding the cylinder extended.

A simple piece of 1-1/2" angle iron, and a hose clamp. Raise the loader all the way. Place the angle iron over the cylinder rod so it rests on the cross tube of the rod (where the pin goes through) and the gland nut of the cylinder. Hose clamp to hold angle iron in place.
 
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My 2014 DK45SE does the same thing. I have read on here that it is normal, but I still don't like it. I see equipment all over town at worksites, dealers etc where the booms, FELs etc are left up all the time, unattended and drive by the next day and there is no creeping. I do agree it is not the safest practice to leave anything off the ground though.
 
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What you will find is that the industrial-commercial machines have a much higher quality of valve. Typically costing beyond what most of us with these utility type tractors would care to pay for. We have control valves that cost hundreds of dollars. They have control valves that costs thousands of dollars. Because the less costly units work fine for most of us and most of us are not willing to pay thousands of dollars more, the manufacturers simply don't use the more costly valves.

If there were mass demands for a higher quality product, then that product would get built, the demand simply is not there, so we have what we have. ;)
 
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And when you drive by a dealer and see a lot of tractors with their front loader in the air......it's usually blocked up mechanically, one way or another.
 
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There is a type of cylinder that locks in place when pressure is removed.
 
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And when you drive by a dealer and see a lot of tractors with their front loader in the air......it's usually blocked up mechanically, one way or another.
Yes, A dealer is just asking for a lawsuit if the loader isn't blocked mechanically and left up.
Skid steers have a U channel block that will swing out and lock the boom cylinders when the loader is up, so it can't fall or drift down when doing maintainance.
 
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If you want to store it raised, thats still doable. Just need a mechanical means of holding the cylinder extended.

A simple piece of 1-1/2" angle iron, and a hose clamp. Raise the loader all the way. Place the angle iron over the cylinder rod so it rests on the cross tube of the rod (where the pin goes through) and the gland nut of the cylinder. Hose clamp to hold angle iron in place.

This is a great idea. Raising the loader makes engine maintenance MUCH easier. I don't have a leak-down problem but I'd feel more secure with a mechanical backup, just in case. I thought about resting the bucket on a tree or hooking an overhead limb with the grapple. But this angle iron trick sounds better.
 

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