Tiller 240d Buying a tiller..

[Yanmar240d1980]

What type of tiller are you yanmar 240d guys running? I do not want to over do it.
Light in weight but not wimpy would be nice. Want to do something like this with it. ( see link)
rototiller-hiller.avi - YouTube
Thanks in advance

 

[jeff9366]

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Yanmar YM240
1977 - 1981
Compact Utility tractor

Manufacturer: Yanmar
Factory: Japan
Original price (USD)
$6,000 (1981 )

Variants:
YM240: 2WD
YM240D: 4WD

Yanmar YM240 Engine:
Yanmar 1.1L 2-cyl diesel
full engine details ...

Capacity:
Fuel: 5.8 gal [22.0 L]

3-Point Hitch:
Rear Type: I

Power Take-off (PTO):
Rear PTO: transmission
Clutch: overrunning
Rear RPM: 540/1000
Engine RPM: 540@2200
Front PTO: optional

Dimensions & Tires:
Wheelbase: 58.7 inches [149 cm]
Weight: 1696 lbs [769 kg]
Front tire: 4.00-15
Rear tire: 9.5-24
full dimensions and tires ...

Yanmar YM240 Power:
Engine: 24 hp [17.9 kW]
Drawbar (claimed): 16.5 hp [12.3 kW]
PTO (claimed): 19.756 hp [14.7 kW]
Drawbar (tested): 16.54 hp [12.3 kW]
PTO (tested): 19.76 hp [14.7 kW]

Mechanical:
Chassis: 4x2 2WD
4x4 MFWD 4WD
Steering: manual
Brakes: mechanical internal expansion
Cab: Open operator station.

Electrical:
Ground: negative
Charging system: generator

Battery:
Number: 1
Volts: 12




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[DieselBound]

I'm running a 5-footer (built by Sicma) on my Kubota B7800. B7800 is 30hp and 23hp at PTO. Soil type make a HUGE difference. I've got heavy soil (though the garden area is lighter).

I'd figure 48" tiller for the 240d would be about right: if this were a 4wd one "might" be able to go just a bit wider. Tractor's width is spec'd at 48.8", so would need to have a bit of an offset on any 48" tiller in order to completely cover a track.

 

[TractorToolsDirect]

We have a demo 51" tiller by Caroni that we used for a demonstration video if your interested or have any questions feel free to pass them our way. Here are some links of other listings we have at the moment as well. I hope this helps.

Tractor Tools Direct | TX43 Rotary Tiller by Caroni

Tractor Tools Direct | TS51 Rotary Tiller by Caroni – DEMO UNIT

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[tcreeley]

I have the 5' version of this- great tiller.



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[powerscol]

Check out these folks.Several advertisers here. They build their tillers like tanks. Home With tillers weight is your friend to have them work properly. Also forget the power requirements. I am running a YJR 074 with no issues and I am running it with a Bobcat CT 235 (26.5 hp PTO). I got mine used through an agg rental place. Look around.

 

[Coda1]

I have a 2 wheel drive YM2000 which is the grey market version of your YM240. I use a 5' King Kutter TG-60 tiller on it. At 630 lbs it is just about all the tractor will lift without front weights. I used it to till up a new food plot in soil that had not been tilled before. The soil is very sandy and it seemed like I was using about all the power the tractor had but never more. For my soil it was the perfect size. If you are trying to till new ground that is heavy soil I think 5' would be too much. Previously worked heavy soil would probably be ok. I've only had the tiller one year but so far I am happy with it. Its heavy weight kept it from bouncing around too much and it survived a few hits with rocks.

 

[Yanmar240d1980]

Thank you everyone, my mower is selling so I should be able to make a decision here soon. I see a maschio 36 inch... Used... Weighs a lot though. Isn't that like a Porsche of tillers? Will weight be an issue?

 

[Yanmar240d1980]

In thinking 48inch or smaller, I don't mind the extra time spent... The woods mower I have weighs 500+ lt has 4 wheels though... I need AG tires too. Such a bunch of expenses all at once. I won't be able to move much with a 500# tiller 6 inch deep in rather sandy but unbroken soil with my turf tires.

 

[jeff9366]

Turf tires/traction should not be an issue with forward operating roto-tiller tines, which push the tractor forward.

 

[TractorToolsDirect]

We carry a model with a 43" tilling width made by the Italian brand Caroni. Best of luck on your search. I hope this helps, let me know if I can assist you any further. I have attached our product listing for the TX43 for your review.

Tractor Tools Direct | TX43 Rotary Tiller by Caroni

 

[powerscol]

Just something to think about. You want a tiller wider than you rear tire track.
Chain Driven they have several models (YJC) that your mule can run. Several advertisers here carry this brand. They also have gear driven.

 

[Coda1]

I spun tire a couple of times with 2wd and ag tires. You might be ok with 4wd and turfs. I would probably give it a try before spending the money for another set of wheels unless you have a lot of need for ag tires.

 

[California]

You don't need better tires with a tiller when you have 4 wheel drive. Engage the tiller with the ground and its like 32 wheel drive forward. The tiller will push you.

The turf tire option on YM240D was expensive and rare. I would get a different tractor before I would swap them off, but if you decide to, advertise widely and get top dollar for them.

Finally, verify that YM240D didn't come with unique differential ratios in the front and/or rear axle for the turf tire option. If the differentials were non-standard it may be hard to determine what size R-1 tires would preserve the same ratio of front to rear rolling circumference. Its critical to duplicate that ratio with the new tires.

 

[Cord]

Yanmar makes some pretty good tillers and they're dirt cheap. Just make sure it comes with the drive shaft. They're special and you won't find the pieces needed to make one.

 

[California]

Yanmar makes some pretty good tillers and they're dirt cheap. Just make sure it comes with the drive shaft. They're special and you won't find the pieces needed to make one.

...And the special top link assembly - a short top link and a 'bridge' that bolts onto the tractor. The Yanmar tillers mount close to the tractor and require this so the tiller will lift straight up instead of rotating into the rear tires.

 

[Yanmar240d1980]

Turf tires/traction should not be an issue with forward operating roto-tiller tines, which push the tractor forward.

I thought tillers all ran against the tractor, reverse action

 

[Yanmar240d1980]

...And the special top link assembly - a short top link and a 'bridge' that bolts onto the tractor. The Yanmar tillers mount close to the tractor and require this so the tiller will lift straight up instead of rotating into the rear tires.

Will I need to buy a diff drive shaft to accommodate my tractor for any tiller or are you saying to accommodate a yanmar tiller to my 240d?

 

[Yanmar240d1980]

You don't need better tires with a tiller when you have 4 wheel drive. Engage the tiller with the ground and its like 32 wheel drive forward. The tiller will push you.

The turf tire option on YM240D was expensive and rare. I would get a different tractor before I would swap them off, but if you decide to, advertise widely and get top dollar for them.

Finally, verify that YM240D didn't come with unique differential ratios in the front and/or rear axle for the turf tire option. If the differentials were non-standard it may be hard to determine what size R-1 tires would preserve the same ratio of front to rear rolling circumference. Its critical to duplicate that ratio with the new tires.

You know a whole bunch!.... I was just this moment looking for front ag tires to go with potential new back ag but they don't seem to make front ag or turf anymore for 4x15 do they?
So I need to stick with my rare turf front and back I suppose... I'm gonna be in some muddy stuff though. I have all the manuals for this thing so maybe ratio info in there. Either way ... No sense in putting new fronts on unless one goes out... Backs will depend on my number of times getting stuck I reckon.

 

[California]

Will I need to buy a diff drive shaft to accommodate my tractor for any tiller or are you saying to accommodate a yanmar tiller to my 240d?

If you find a Yanmar tiller be sure to get its native driveshaft and top link components as a complete package. Otherwise it will be difficult and costly to replicate any of these essential parts.

I was lucky when I got mine, the driveshaft was too short. I went back to the VN wholesaler and they said it must have been modified for a slip clutch so they gave me a driveshaft extender (common Tractor Supply item) to make up the missing length. You don't want to get into problems like that, that may be more difficult to resolve.

The 'before' photo that I showed the dealer.

'After' photo, in use with driveshaft extender bringing the shaft length up to normal. Yes it needs paint. Now 10 years later it doesn't look any prettier. But I had asked them for their cheapest tiller, and this cost $200 complete including that $20 driveshaft extender they provided. It works fine. That's the same tiller in my sig photo below.

(The pretty photo I put in an earlier post was someone else's tiller on a nice VN refurb).


Added: Use a common US tiller instead? Seems to me so long as it has the right length driveshaft, or larger so you can cut it down (simple), it will work as well on a Yanmar as on anything else. You might verify it will clear the rear tires lifted as well as down. So far as I know it was only the tillers made in Japan for their domestic market tractors (ie RS1400 tiller for YM2000) that are so close-coupled that they need that special top link assembly and everything else on the market is generic dimensions to fit anything.

If you haven't read this already - the US dealers had US (Canada?) made tillers and other attachments to sell with the US Yanmars. Then later when the VN refurb shops flooded the US market with 'rebuilt' (repainted) used Japan-version tractors, they normally included the tiller that had been with that tractor since new. So for a while there were a lot of Yanmar-Japan version tillers available here cheap. They may be hard to find now.

Photo - my tiller is the last green one. (But this importer went out of business a decade ago).