Which National Park?

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Olympics and Western Washington are a good candidate too. Ruby beach, hot springs, etc. If you go that route make sure to take a ferry or two across the Puget Sound up into the San Juan islands. We were lucky enough to live in that area for 2.5 years and loved every minute of it. Then there's Mt Rainier, St Helens, Vancouver, Victoria island, etc. So many cool things to do, take a few memory cards for your camera!
 
   / Which National Park? #24  
But, there are some criteria. 1.) I'm not fond of being a tourist in blistering hot weather and we would probably go in the spring. Yes, I have lived all my life in the hot steamy south but when I'm on vacation I prefer not to be in the heat. 2.) I'm not fond of simply being a tourist. I don't like crowds of tourists. I don't like being in tourist traffic on the roads. 3.) We don't mind going off the beaten path. When we went to Italy we hardly had an itinerary. We mostly just went wherever the mood took us and it was mostly to places where people didn't speak English and there were no English menus (which, by the way, is how you get the best Italian food!). 4.) We don't mind hiking, walking or driving out of the way to see good stuff that the tourists might miss. 5.) I am into photography and that would be an integral part of what I would enjoy on the trip.

So, with those things in mind I'd love to hear what you folks have to say. I know it isn't tractor related but I also know you guys will give me a wide range of good solid advice and opinion. You always have.

You do realize that that paragraph regarding hordes of tourists and tourist traffic on the roads pretty much eliminates most of the major National Parks during the summer? Living in the west, I've been to pretty much every National Park east of the Mississippi (some I've explored multiple times) except for Great Bend down in Texas - and that's on the agenda. Yellowstone, the south rim of the Grand Canyon, even Glacier are an absolute zoo June through August. Death Valley you don't want to visit except November through about March.

If you are going during the summer months but want to avoid the heat then the North Rim of the Grand Canyon is a possibility. I'm talking the area around the Grand Canyon Lodge, Bright Angel, and Cape Royal as that region is heavily forested and averages ~ 8,000 feet in elevation. Crowds usually aren't too bad because it is so remote. Yellowstone/Grand Tetons are also high elevation but awfully crowded during the summer as is Glacier. The Olympic Peninsula west of Seattle/Tacoma will be cool...but you can also be rained out.

If you are going in the springtime and don't mind driving dirt roads then I'd suggest the North Rim of the Grand Canyon again - but the Tuweep (Toroweap) and Whitmore Canyon areas south of Fredonia/Colorado City, Arizona. This area is lower in elevation, desert, and during the 1st or 2nd week of May the desert is in bloom and spectacular. At Toroweap you can stand directly on the edge of the canyon and look at miles of the river, something you cannot do from the South Rim. In Whitmore Canyon the road ends just above the Colorado River - it's just a short hike from road's end to the river itself. It would be a heck of a change from what you are used to on the East Coast and a photographer's paradise. Here's some links (hope they still work) from a trip I did to the area a few years ago.
Grand Canyon, Tuweep region | Ride Spaces & Places | XT225+250 Rider's Group

Side trip to Lava Falls trailhead | Ride Spaces & Places | XT225+250 Rider's Group

Mt. Logan, and Whitmore Valley | Ride Spaces & Places | XT225+250 Rider's Group

If this area interests you let me know and I can provide further information, including GPS tracks to follow. There is a primitive campground at Toroweap. If you are into camping you can camp anywhere outside of the National Park boundary freely. Don't let the fact that I rode my motorcycle deter you - it's the way I prefer to travel the back country - most people rent an SUV in southern Utah to see this area. I guarantee you, you won't be crowded!
 
   / Which National Park? #25  
If you want a variety of short to day walks, then Tasmania has you covered: http://www.parks.tas.gov.au/Index.aspx?base=1315

And, as Bunyip suggests, there are wonderful places in Victoria too. Our Autumn is coming up (end of March to end May) which is your Spring = low tourist season!

(I'd spruik other States, here in Aus... but no one else has piped up. :))
 
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You're in SC. Have you been to the Smokies? We've been there probably 10 times. Lots of good day hikes in that park.

We go to the Appalachians and the SC coast pretty much every summer.

You ever been up to DC? I highly recommend it, if not. Stay in a town on the outskirts and ride the subway in daily to the national mall. The subways are clean, safe, and easy to use. I had my kids plan the subway route and take me to the mall to see if they could get around if they got lost. No problem for them at all.

We did that when our kids were young. Stayed in Chevy Chase in the Embassy Suites. Metro came right into the hotel. Great trip.

Gettysburg, PA is a must. Great park! You can drive, stop and walk all day long. 2 days if you read a lot.

I did that and Antietam, Bull Run and several others when I did a rotation in DC. I was by myself and really enjoyed those places but they are very sobering places. There are a few books out that locate where Matthew Brady was standing when he took his battlefield pictures along with the photograph he took. It is amazing to stand in those spots and then look at the corresponding photo from 150 years ago. My wife isn't into Civil War history but southern Penn. and that whole region is gorgeous.
 
   / Which National Park? #27  
George...Don't forget the only National Park in SC. Congaree NP. It's just down the road, has the largest lowland forest left in the country and so close you can go any day on a whim. I am out that way a good bit.
 
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George...Don't forget the only National Park in SC. Congaree NP. It's just down the road, has the largest lowland forest left in the country and so close you can go any day on a whim. I am out that way a good bit.

Been there. It is pretty amazing being so close to downtown Columbia. When I was a child I used to hunt on the property right next to it.
 
   / Which National Park? #29  
Yellowstone, Devil's Tower, Mount Rushmore and surrounding area.

+1 on this suggestion....probably not in the spring though, weather is unpredictable.
 
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You do realize that that paragraph regarding hordes of tourists and tourist traffic on the roads pretty much eliminates most of the major National Parks during the summer?

Yes. Some of the pictures I've seen of Yellowstone in summer looks horrifying to me with miles of cars everywhere. Maybe I just need to get over it and consider part of the Park experience.

If you are going during the summer months but want to avoid the heat then the North Rim of the Grand Canyon is a possibility. I'm talking the area around the Grand Canyon Lodge, Bright Angel, and Cape Royal as that region is heavily forested and averages ~ 8,000 feet in elevation. Crowds usually aren't too bad because it is so remote.

That is exactly what my wife is researching now. Sounds much more my sort of thing. I do not mind rambling down dirt roads and such. I have a 4x4 pickup which is great for long distance travel that we might even consider driving out there. If we fly I'd have to rent something. My daughter and her husband rented some sort of 4wd Subaru when they went out west and it was not too pricey.

I'm also wondering if there are private guides or tours you can pay to take you off the beaten path either one-on-one or in small groups that might get you away from the tourist throngs in some of the bigger parks.
 
   / Which National Park? #32  
All the national parks are quite crowded during the summer. Many have hot days in the summer. The ones in the Canadian Rockies are packed in the summer. Reservations may be required well in advance. Line ups are the norm including traffic jams. Relaxation is hard to come by in these places.

Consider a Fly in fishing lodge, ( don't have to fish ) interior or on the ocean front.
Backcountry logde accessible by horse or helicopter.
A high country guest ranch.
A fully found horse packing trip.
 
   / Which National Park? #33  
Surprised there isn't more interest in the southern Utah parks - Zion, Canyonlands, Bryce, etc. Best in spring and fall when the weather is cooler and the crowds are not at all bad then. Of course, everyone should visit Grand Canyon, Yellowstone and Yosemite in their lifetime.
 
   / Which National Park? #34  
When we were at the grand canyon last yr, they warned about the massive crowds. We drove in at 9 am, parked up by the donkey pens, within walking distance of the edge. Lot was empty. Seems like people didnt show up till noon. Didnt have to mess with parking at visitor center and riding a bus in.
It really wasnt that crowded till noon. We rode the bus along the rim, no big crowd. We were there in june, and it was cold, we had to buy sweatshirts.
 
   / Which National Park? #35  
Mesa Verde NP is a keeper.
I had issues driving there. But very nice, then go to durango and ride the train.

If you come to gettysburg, message me, I'm close by.

Over a year to get an old faithful lodge reservation, when we went in 2008. We stayed on the lake, in a 70s ere place that sucked. We enjoyed our cabin at the tetons. We were there in august, no big crowds, and snow on one of the passes one night.
 
   / Which National Park? #36  
... 2.) I'm not fond of simply being a tourist. I don't like crowds of tourists. I don't like being in tourist traffic on the roads. 3.) We don't mind going off the beaten path. When we went to Italy we hardly had an itinerary. We mostly just went wherever the mood took us and it was mostly to places where people didn't speak English and there were no English menus (which, by the way, is how you get the best Italian food!). 4.) We don't mind hiking, walking or driving out of the way to see good stuff that the tourists might miss. 5.) I am into photography and that would be an integral part of what I would enjoy on the trip.

So, with those things in mind I'd love to hear what you folks have to say. I know it isn't tractor related but I also know you guys will give me a wide range of good solid advice and opinion. You always have.

You mentioned avoiding the tourist mobs and traffic as well as just going where you wanted to go when you wanted. We have had quite a few vacations that are very structured, and they needed to be, but we prefer to be able go where and when the wind blows. Far more interesting and enjoyable for us.

Have you driven up the Blue Ridge Parkway? I have done it a couple of times in NC and there is a quite a bit to see on and off the Parkway. You could make hotel reservations at strategic locations and do what you want between hotels. Stay at a few given hotels for a few days to allow exploration of an area. One problem with going out west, when one lives in the east, is the huge amount of time it takes to get out west. Unless one has lots of time, one has to fly. Driving takes too long and even the train burns up precious time.

A coworker does little to no planning for trips. :shocked::laughing: She will wait for a cheap plane flight and then go somewhere. Somewhere could be in the states or overseas. Over Christmas break, she found cheap plane tickets to Las Vegas and flew out there to see the Grand Canyon. It was a spur of the moment trip. She was looking at tickets on say Wednesday and they were $500, which was an ok price, and her daughter pushed her to buy the tickets. She waited until Thursday and the tickets were around $100 so she bought them. :laughing::laughing::laughing: Tis kinda crazy, but it gets her to places she wants to go too for little money. She is just flexible on where to go right now and goes where the cheap air fare take her. :thumbsup: Not a bad approach if one wants to travel.

Her kids are adults and out of the house so she can travel this way. We can't since we still have kids anchoring us down. :laughing::laughing::laughing:

I don't really like cities per say, and have no desire to see any US city. :shocked::confused3: DC might be an exception because of the museums. Having said that seeing Fer'n cities is something we want to do. We over nighted in Hong Kong and got to see a bit of the city but not enough and we would love to go back. Same thing for Glasgow Scotland. Spent a bit more time in smaller cities and towns in mainland China, Ireland and Scotland but not enough and want to go back. The nice thing about the non mainland China cities is the people sorta speak English, :shocked::D, so it is easier to get around and the places are loaded with things to see. In Ireland we took the bus from one town in the south to Dublin. Lovely drive, and since it was the bus, we could sit back and watch the scenery go by. During our trip to Ireland/Scotland, one of our ideas was to land in Dublin and take the bus, train and ferry to Scotland before returning to Dublin. That did not work out but we really wanted to do that trip since it would allow us to see quite a bit of Ireland and Scotland in a way more like the locals.

I share your desire to avoid the hordes of tourists and resulting traffic especially in areas where nature is the reason to visit.

Later,
Dan
 
   / Which National Park? #38  
If you don't like crowds you could go to North Cascades National Park in Washington and stay in Sthekin. Lots of cool stuff there. You can't drive there, hike in or boat in. Not much to speak of for crowds.
 
   / Which National Park? #39  
The north rim of the Grand Canyon won't be too hot in the spring. In early spring the road might still be closed, tho. There are a couple of worthwhile parks in southern Utah that would be worth seeing on the same trip, too.
 
   / Which National Park? #40  
Living in Idaho, we have done these, Snake river Jet boat tour/ Hells Canyon , Salmon River river rafting tour, (Absolute Blast) Craters of the Moon, Farragut State Park on Lake Pend Oreille which has miles of hiking trails as do the Off season SKI resorts, rent a motorcycle load up the back packs, adds to the fun then get a ride up a chair and hike down the mountain.

The ski resorts are a fun idea in any states summer months and generally not to busy, unlike the ski season and the views from the top of a mountain in spring with everything in bloom, make for some great pictures.

Glacier National park is still on our list along with Yellowstone
 
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