CK2510hst block heater

[Tucker833]

First winter with new ck2510hst.Was wondering if they make a block heater for for it?

 

[marchanna]

Not specifically, but there are ones that fit. Search around here and you値l find some info. I think it痴 a pretty easy install or your tractor.

 

[perrypower]

Kioti has a 400W Block Heater that will fit your tractor. It is available at your local dealer as part number AAA247. It usually sells for about $68.
We usually quote about 2 hours of labor to install this.

 

[marchanna]

Can you provide some more info on this part. My dealer didn't have it, and my searches suggest that this is not an actual Kioti part.

What I did for mine, was just bought a ZeroStart (Philips & Temro) heater with a 3/4" NPT, which you can usually find for about $20-$30(CAD). Depending on your specific model you may actually have a spot that you can thread it in directly, but more that likely, it will need to be installed in the frost plug hole (freeze plug, core plug, whatever your terminology happens to be). If you need to install it in the freeze plugs, you will also need a sleeve. I searched up several on the internet, which also fit Kubotas, and other brands of tractors, but the shipping was usually more expensive than the sleeve. So I went to my local dealer, and their sleeve was just a modified 3/4" pipe coupling - it was just turned on a lathe on one end to fit the frost plug hole. Simple enough, and they only wanted $12 for it. However, it was just cast iron, and being in Canada, i was concerned about this thing rusting and failing. I just happen to have my own metal lather, so I bought a Stainless Steel 3/4" coupling, and turned it myself. I put a 3-degree included taper on it (1.5-degrees/side) so that it would wedge into the frost plug hole, and I used Permatex High Temp Sleeve Retainer (#64000) to bond it in there. The purpose-made sleeves I saw online, also had tapers on them, but were more aggressive - I'm assuming to allow for more open tolerances during manufacturing - and they were usually carburized or treated with some other corrosion protection.

 

[marchanna]

I will warn you, if you go on a hunt to buy the parts yourself, the prices of block heaters are all over the map. Almost all of them are manufactured by Phillips & Temro. Oddly enough, they used to be manufactured at their plant in Winnipeg, and after they moved the operation to China, the prices went up. Even the pre-installed block heaters on my Mercedes have all said Made in Canada on them.

 

[perrypower]

I don't have one in front of me, but this block heater fits every Kioti tractor except for the CS and PX series. You are correct, Kioti does not make this, however I do not remember what brand it is.

 

[marchanna]

Wholeproducts apparently is the package name, but I assume it's manufactured by P&T. It might only be distributed to Kioti dealers in the US. I think the block heater my dealer was selling was Bobcat branded. They wanted $85 for it plus the sleeve. I said no thanks.

Does the one you're talking about come with the sleeve also? Because $68 for the heater + sleeve + adhesive is a pretty reasonable price.

I was $30 for the heater, $6 for the sleeve (SS coupling), and $10 for the Permatex: $46CAD total. I had to modify the sleeve myself though. From the dealer I would have been $85 for the heater, $12 for the sleeve, and $10 for the Permatex: $107CAD total, and an inferior solution.

 

[perrypower]

It looks like the Kioti option does come with the sleeve. (see attached pic).

 

[marchanna]

That逞ｴ a decent kit for $68. Does it come with the sleeve retainer? That has the Stainless Steel version block heater also which are also suitable as an engine oil or hydro oil heater. I遏･ not sure if they豎*e better than the bronze ones, but they usually retail for a fair bit more.

On another note P&T makes a weather proof flip lid receptacle for these also, that plugs directly into the heater, ie replaced the existing power cable.

 

[VictorW]

Kioti has a 400W Block Heater that will fit your tractor. It is available at your local dealer as part number AAA247. It usually sells for about $68.
We usually quote about 2 hours of labor to install this.

If some member's dealers don't have these, are you able to send these? Should a member PM you or is their a number to call? Thank you for your help to all.

 

[Doofy]

Personally, I would add a lower radiator hose heater. Easier and quicker. Measure hose, buy appropriate heater,drain antifreeze, cut hose, install heater, refill radiator, burp and you are done. They work very well.

 

[marchanna]

I dunno, my install was pretty quick. I would say under 20 minutes, and that includes turning the taper on my custom sleeve. I did it in the afternoon and let the sleeve retainer cure over night, and refilled the coolant in the morning. Draining and refilling the coolant is by far the most time-consuming part.

It takes 30 seconds to knock out the plug. 30 seconds to apply sleeve retainer compound. 30 seconds to tap it into place. 30 seconds to wrap Teflon tape on the heater. 1 minute to wrench in it. 10 minutes to drink a beer and admire your handy work. Quite frankly, it痴 more work to change a headlamp in my car - I sometimes spend half an hour trying to blindly reach in and align the bulb in the socket.

 

[Doofy]

I dunno, my install was pretty quick. I would say under 20 minutes, and that includes turning the taper on my custom sleeve. I did it in the afternoon and let the sleeve retainer cure over night, and refilled the coolant in the morning. Draining and refilling the coolant is by far the most time-consuming part.

It takes 30 seconds to knock out the plug. 30 seconds to apply sleeve retainer compound. 30 seconds to tap it into place. 30 seconds to wrap Teflon tape on the heater. 1 minute to wrench in it. 10 minutes to drink a beer and admire your handy work. Quite frankly, itç—´ more work to change a headlamp in my car - I sometimes spend half an hour trying to blindly reach in and align the bulb in the socket.

Yes, I've always used core plug heaters in the past until access became so congested that you couldn't even find the engine. Tractors should be a little more open...at least you may be able to see the engine. On my tractor, the hose is right there in plain sight and easier to keep an eye on.

 

[marchanna]

Fair enough. I have an abundance of space around mine, so that was a non-issue for me.

 

[Doofy]

Since I live in such a frigid place I also installed pad heaters on my oil pan and automatic transmission pan of my 7.3 diesel on the plow truck. Truck sits outside all the time. I also keep a battery tender plugged in on the batteries.

When I know I will be plowing I will plug everything in for an hour or so. Has never failed to start and oil pressure is instantaneous. Of course, not everyone needs to be so radical.

 

[perrypower]

If some member's dealers don't have these, are you able to send these? Should a member PM you or is their a number to call? Thank you for your help to all.

We typically keep at least 1 or 2 of these kits in stock at all times, so yes, we are able to ship them if desired. You may message us or call us at 717-789-3532.

 

[marchanna]

Here is the high temp sleeve retainer you will need for it.

Amazon.com: Permatex 64 High Temperature Sleeve Retainer, 6 ml: Automotive

I'm sure there are other products out there also that would suffice.

 

[Doofy]

Here is the high temp sleeve retainer you will need for it.

Amazon.com: Permatex 64 High Temperature Sleeve Retainer, 6 ml: Automotive

I'm sure there are other products out there also that would suffice.

Thanks for this tip. Never heard of this before.