Thoughts on Sexual Harrasment...

[3930dave]

It is not that rare, at least in my experience; seems that not everyone is inclined to file suit. I recall back in the 80's and 90's employers were stretching to hire women and minorities. I recall talking to some Uranium miners in New Mexico; they alleged that management busted their butts to hire women to work in the mines, but for the most part, they couldn't do the heavy work, so they were all gravitating to the softer jobs...jobs that were traditionally reserved for the older miners who had paid their dues; some who had injuries and disabilities from years of working in the mines. They were very bitter, to say the least.

A Male can have a problem ? Who is starting these crazy rumours ?

Started long ago. One of the very best managers I ever worked for had resigned from reasonably high-level govt job not long before I was working for her in the private sector. I remember her describing a Sr. Admin running around the office screeching about how she couldn't possibly be allowed to resign Right Then, as she had just got the "Genders Balanced" for an upcoming conference.

Being a plain-spoken lady from the Rock (Nfld), my buddy then loudly asked her (in front of a very high-level official) "What the _____ are you talking about ? Are we supposed to be _______ing all weekend ?".

Yeah, I miss working with her, and No, she didn't fit-in to a govt job any better than I did.....

Started with govt, and got extended into the private sector with either direct legislation, or carrot/stick contract clauses (must have xy% minority employees on staff, to bid).

I don't have an issue with anybody competing directly on a job. Different story, if the playing field has a permanent tilt.

Some women (and men) can't accomplish certain physical tasks - you shouldn't get a "special" promotion because of that.

Discrimination has many forms. Some can't be openly discussed in the pc environment of today.

Rgds, D.

 

[2LaneCruzer]

A Male can have a problem ? Who is starting these crazy rumours ?

Started long ago. One of the very best managers I ever worked for had resigned from reasonably high-level govt job not long before I was working for her in the private sector. I remember her describing a Sr. Admin running around the office screeching about how she couldn't possibly be allowed to resign Right Then, as she had just got the "Genders Balanced" for an upcoming conference.

Being a plain-spoken lady from the Rock (Nfld), my buddy then loudly asked her (in front of a very high-level official) "What the _____ are you talking about ? Are we supposed to be _______ing all weekend ?".

Yeah, I miss working with her, and No, she didn't fit-in to a govt job any better than I did.....

Started with govt, and got extended into the private sector with either direct legislation, or carrot/stick contract clauses (must have xy% minority employees on staff, to bid).

I don't have an issue with anybody competing directly on a job. Different story, if the playing field has a permanent tilt.

Some women (and men) can't accomplish certain physical tasks - you shouldn't get a "special" promotion because of that.

Discrimination has many forms. Some can't be openly discussed in the pc environment of today.

Rgds, D.

A lot of the rules were changed to accommodate women and minorities. Our Highway patrol used to have a height, weight and physical ability requirement, but it eliminated almost all women and Hispanics...so they changed it...or so I'm told.

 

[jerrybob]

What we need is all reference to race, gender, age, & religion eliminated from ALL government & business forms & records.

Let's start at the top......Cheeto......give him a call.......let us know.

 

[jerrybob]

A lot of the rules were changed to accommodate women and minorities. Our Highway patrol used to have a height, weight and physical ability requirement, but it eliminated almost all women and Hispanics...so they changed it...or so I'm told.

Affirmative action shouldn't just benefit blacks. It should help all the groups that have been discriminated against. Like Jews should get into college before Germans, and women should get in before men, gay people before straight, fat before thin. But you can't do that, cause if you did, the only people in college would be fat, black, Jewish, lesbians. And who wants that? I mean there's more to college than just softball!

 

[2LaneCruzer]

Affirmative action shouldn't just benefit blacks. It should help all the groups that have been discriminated against. Like Jews should get into college before Germans, and women should get in before men, gay people before straight, fat before thin. But you can't do that, cause if you did, the only people in college would be fat, black, Jewish, lesbians. And who wants that? I mean there's more to college than just softball!

Wow! Now them's some hard sayin's...kinda like profound. I'm betting that they might slip a tranny in there somewhere though.

 

[jerrybob]

Wow! Now them's some hard sayin's...kinda like profound. I'm betting that they might slip a tranny in there somewhere though.

Probably in the Eastern Schools.....not in the South!:laughing:

 

[3930dave]

A lot of the rules were changed to accommodate women and minorities. Our Highway patrol used to have a height, weight and physical ability requirement, but it eliminated almost all women and Hispanics...so they changed it...or so I'm told.

It's changed here too. My boss's daughter is likely to end up on our provincial force, and I'm pretty sure she doesn't top 100#, even all tac'd out.

Back when, our cops were expected to be able to fight their way into and out of any bar, using nothing more than batons. If that. And, I'm not that old.... not talking Keystone Cops era

So, it's changed the dynamic on the street here a bit, IMO. Not sure how much general confidence (police force) there is in Tasers, but it does seem to me that many interactions that were addressed 30+ years ago here with direct physical action often seem to quickly escalate to a civilian getting shot today. Our police will encounter civilians with (legal or otherwise) guns, but the occurrence is relatively low compared to US streets.

Can't remember the last time I saw a tonfa stick (baton) here, with regular patrol. Another sign of getting old ?

Rgds, D.

 

[Redbug]

I used to say, (when I was working back then), people should come to work...do their jobs and leave the baggage at home. If you can't do the job you should not be in that position and others should not have to pick up the slack for the ones who won't or can't. Reverse discrimination is alive and well.

 

[PILOON]

"Back when, our cops were expected to be able to fight their way into and out of any bar, using nothing more than batons. "

Seems that today they'd simply shoot their way in and out and the courts would support them.

 

[buickanddeere]

"Back when, our cops were expected to be able to fight their way into and out of any bar, using nothing more than batons. "

Seems that today they'd simply shoot their way in and out and the courts would support them.

all the cop has to say is “they feared for their life”. The statement is a license to do what ever they want .