Buying Advice In a Quandry

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Citizen Dick

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having purchased 100 acres in KY, varying terrain, half wooded, looking to build a small farm/homestead for myself and grandkids, I am thinking of purchasing a Branson 3520 shuttle shift, or 4520 shuttle shift brand new. Tractor will be used for every imaginable task (plowing, seeding, raking, baling, earth moving, wood hauling, etc.)... I am interested in what others think...
 
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Unless you are retired, you need to go bigger, you need to get the work done, not play at it. Look at utility tractors, not compact utilities.

Good luck. :thumbsup:
 
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I agree. For that much land, you need something that can get the job done. You will overwork a small tractor, and eventually destroy it. In a few years, the novelty will wear off and the land will become work. Some of it extremely enjoyable work, some of it time consuming could be better spent doing what you enjoy. Mowing is one of those things. You want to be able to mow as much land, as quickly as possible. A 15 foot batwing will need a 80 HP tractor at the bare minimum. I'm personally hoping to upgrade to a 90 to 100 HP cab tractor when I finish paying off my wife's mini van for my 68 acres. Cab so I can use it regardless of how cold or hot it is, and not be attacked by bugs.
 
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thanks, I appreciate the input... what size would you recommend?
 
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I agree. For that much land, you need something that can get the job done. You will overwork a small tractor, and eventually destroy it. In a few years, the novelty will wear off and the land will become work. Some of it extremely enjoyable work, some of it time consuming could be better spent doing what you enjoy. Mowing is one of those things. You want to be able to mow as much land, as quickly as possible. A 15 foot batwing will need a 80 HP tractor at the bare minimum. I'm personally hoping to upgrade to a 90 to 100 HP cab tractor when I finish paying off my wife's mini van for my 68 acres. Cab so I can use it regardless of how cold or hot it is, and not be attacked by bugs.

thanks for the response... my plan is to have 2 acres for house and yard, minimum of 25 acres woods, 10 for foodstuffs, the rest planted in grass, most likely rye since it's good to make whiskey from... what would you recommend for size? and do you see an issue with Branson as a brand? I ask because their tractors seem to offer more for the dollar.
 
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thanks, I appreciate the input... what size would you recommend?

You seem to be looking at Branson, so the 45 series would be a good place to start. What other makes are within an hours drive? Go look at them also. Pretty much all of the newer tractors are pretty good. You just need to find one that fits you, as in the controls are comfortable for YOU to operate. Best to at least sit on as many different makes and models that you can before making a final decision.

Frame sizes of utility tractors usually START at around 60hp and go up from there. If a frame size ends up in the 60hp range, it usually is at the upper end of a compact utility lineup.

Do some research, then go and look. ;)
 
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I don't know why everyone thinks you need 100 HP and a 15ft.batwing for 100 acres.I couldn't even turn a rig that big around on "my" 100 acres.I do all the jobs the O.P.described with 44 HP.
I have small food plots(ten or so)from 1/4 to 2 acres;20 acres of wood lot,lots of fence rows and stone walls. I brush-hog maybe 20 acres total of that once a year with a six ft.Brush-hog.
I don't bale any hay but I know they make small balers.
 
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You seem to be looking at Branson, so the 45 series would be a good place to start. What other makes are within an hours drive? Go look at them also. Pretty much all of the newer tractors are pretty good. You just need to find one that fits you, as in the controls are comfortable for YOU to operate. Best to at least sit on as many different makes and models that you can before making a final decision.

Frame sizes of utility tractors usually START at around 60hp and go up from there. If a frame size ends up in the 60hp range, it usually is at the upper end of a compact utility lineup.

Do some research, then go and look. ;)

I have been doing the research and my head hurts from it LOL.... been looking online for basic info, and going to fairs and actually trying out the equipment, however, at county fairs and such, the people you meet are generally sales people, not users, hence my joining this forum; the desire to talk to people that actually use the equipment... my interest in Branson tractors is nothing more than economics; they seem to offer the best value price-wise, but I have never seen any of their equipment out in the fields or woods working...
 
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The best way to shop for tractors is to list your tasks first, then determine how much bare tractor weight you need to SAFELY accomplish your tasks. Bare tractor weight is a tractor specification easily found in sales brochures and web sites, readily comparable across tractor brands and tractor models.

For most tractor tasks greater chassis weight is more important than tractor horsepower. This tractor fundamental is difficult for people new to tractors to comprehend. It takes a 50% increase in bare tractor weight before you notice a significant tractor capability increase. It takes a 100% increase in bare tractor weight to elicit MY-OH-MY!

Heavier tractors have more tractive power pulling ground contact implements. Greater mass of heavy-chassis tractors increases tractor stability when transporting loads in the FEL bucket, the most rollover prone of routine tractor tasks. Heavier tractors have larger wheels and tires better able to bridge holes, ruts and downed tree limbs, yielding a smoother, less disturbing passage over rough ground.

Safe hillside operation demands more tractor weight than flat land operation. Heavier tractors have wider wheel spreads making heavier tractors less laterally unstable. Rear wheel spreads may be decreased or increased after jacking up the rear.

Shop your weight range within tractor brands. Budget will eliminate some choices. Collect a dealer brochure for each tractor model in your weight range. I spreadsheet tractor and implement specs, often a revealing exercise. I have a column for cost per pound.

Tractors under 3,000 pounds bare weight are offered in one configuration. Most, such as the high volume kubota standard L series, are sparely equipped to hit competitive price points. Others, such as the Yanmar YT235 and Kubota B2650/B3350 series, include enhanced productivity and comfort components.

Most tractors under 3,000 pounds bare weight are operated in residential applications on one to five fairly flat acres. These "residential tractors" fit in a typical garage.

Tractors over 3,000 pounds bare weight are generally offered in a utilitarian configuration and a deluxe configuration, on a common chassis. Deluxe kit enhances productivity and operating comfort ~~~ but you have to pay. Many tractors over 3,000 pounds bare weight are too tall to fit in a typical garage, even with ROPS folded.

Selling a used tractor is easy. Selling light implements in order to buy heavier, wider, implements for a heavier tractor you take a hit in depreciation. Passing time with multiple browsers is a pain. ((Ask me how I know.))

For most new to tractors a quality dealer, reasonably close, available for coaching, is important. Dealer proximity is less important to others, well experienced with tractors, who perform their own maintenance. My kubota dealer is six miles away. I feel my local dealer continues to add value to my equipment.

Horsepower is only a primary consideration operating PTO powered implements.

BUY ENOUGH TRACTOR.
 
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What's your budget?
 

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