Bx1500 or hold out for a bigger unit?

   / Bx1500 or hold out for a bigger unit? #92  
Let's not forget that a new set of 4 BX tires on rims from the dealer is about $400 through Whole Goods-the sales dept.
 
   / Bx1500 or hold out for a bigger unit?
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#93  

Worth a call. The more I think about backhoe the more I like the idea of just getting my dream tractor in the first place.
I have 2 small jobs I could use it for right away too.
There's a bx1860 at a dealer 4 hours away I talked to when I went to indiana. They already said they'd take 7800 and I bet theyd do 7500 or maybe less. It's still for sale.
Unfortunately I just payed some hefty bills and strapped for cash. The most I can scrounge up is about 10k and that will leave me unable to afford gravel, dirt or concrete for my garage.
Next week I'm going to stop at my grandparents and try to sweet talk my grandpa into going in 50/50 on the backhoe unit or even a new one.
 
   / Bx1500 or hold out for a bigger unit? #94  
With prices so high on years old used tractors I'd buy a new one and start the clock at 0. Something else to consider Sparky, my dealer was ranting one day about guys buying the BX and B's then trying to use them like bull dozers and pushing the limits and breaking them. So with used you don't really know the history. You could own the used tractor a week then bang something lets go, add an expensive repair with the high used prices that's going to push up towards what a new one would have cost. Just saying.
 
   / Bx1500 or hold out for a bigger unit? #95  
There are many reasons most of us buy new with the 0% interest for 60 months. Lots of reasons and it isn't because we don't have the money to pay cash. Why would I give my cash and not pay a small monthly payment while my cash is rolling other "stuff" and is still there to make the payments and mostly growing. I've found 60 months is almost like overnight and I'm not under 40. I am a keep some cash for that cash deal that some times pops up and only pay interest on my home loan and some large acreage purchases and collect more interest on some large commercial land sales.
 
   / Bx1500 or hold out for a bigger unit? #96  
There are many reasons most of us buy new with the 0% interest for 60 months. Lots of reasons and it isn't because we don't have the money to pay cash. Why would I give my cash and not pay a small monthly payment while my cash is rolling other "stuff" and is still there to make the payments and mostly growing. I've found 60 months is almost like overnight and I'm not under 40. I am a keep some cash for that cash deal that some times pops up and only pay interest on my home loan and some large acreage purchases and collect more interest on some large commercial land sales.

Yup. I would definitely go new, especially in a small tractor. And that new BX23S has some amazing new features. And that 60 months payment deal is great if you don't have the immediate cash.
 
   / Bx1500 or hold out for a bigger unit? #97  
Isn't the 20% down and 84 months still going, or did that end March 1? That's the deal I took an my tractor, I put $22,000 down on a $33,000 total out the door package, $11,000 financed for free with just over a $100 payment.

I went to the local bar last night and had a few beers with fish sandwich and spent $60.... over half of my tractor payment.... That 84 months thing with zero interest makes it a no brainer!
 
   / Bx1500 or hold out for a bigger unit? #98  
Isn't the 20% down and 84 months still going, or did that end March 1? That's the deal I took an my tractor, I put $22,000 down on a $33,000 total out the door package, $11,000 financed for free with just over a $100 payment.

I went to the local bar last night and had a few beers with fish sandwich and spent $60.... over half of my tractor payment.... That 84 months thing with zero interest makes it a no brainer!

Still on till June I think,,, BX1880 w 54 deck for 99 add the loader 129,,, L2501 hydro and loader 179. 20% down and 84 months.
 
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#99  
Hmm. June? I hope so. I was actually looking into all that last night and that ktac insurance.
A few days ago I contacted my insurance agent and asked about a tractor and if it was covered under my normal homeowners from theft. They said it was absolutely not covered on or off property. If I wanted insurance on property it would be $90 per year and the only thing that covers is theft if it's in locked garage. If on trailer or outside, not covered. If I want liability insurance on and off property that was over $500/yr. My agent really rubbed me the wrong way and I'm in process of changing agents or insurance companies or both. He has been on me for years about getting lIability for my recreational land. 99% of the time I'm the only one that goes out there and I wouldn't sue myself if I get hurt so what's the point. He asked if I store anything out there and I said yes, I have a plastic $200 menards shed to keep shovels, a few tools and some extra clothes etc. Nothing of value and if someone feels the need to steal any of it they obviously need it worse than I do. I don't have any bear traps or anything so what could they do? Pinch themselves in the door or with a pliers? Unless whoever trespasses is one of those intentional hot coffee spillers trying to make a buck I don't see the point of liabilit insurance. My agent said because of my improvements and structures on the land liability is required or I will be dropped from my homeowners insurance. He said unless I remove my improvements from the land I am in breach of contract and will be dropped unless I pay backpay to insure it back to the date of improvements which was many years ago. After contacting another agent who contacted the insurance company I was told that was an unethical lie. I am now really questioning my current coverage and if my agent was even looking out for me or just trying to make as much commission as possible. New agent said he'd recommend liability on it but backpay and dropping me for not covering it is just wrong. He said he can't force me to buy insurance I don't want. He thought that might actually be illegal. Pretty frustrating considering my current agent is/was a lifelong friend I graduated with and worked with at our first jobs.
Anyways. Back to the tractor. Ktac insurance covers way more than the homeowners or liability insurance at a better price so that's a no brainer especially if I buy a new tractor. Wife hates the idea of new tractor with a passion :(
If the 0% lasts until June, most of my major yard work should be complete by then. I'm tempted to just rent a backhoe bx asap when the ground thaws at about $200 for a single day and beat the snot out of it. See if it's what I want or need and hopefully pull the trigger or not on a new one after I get some real seat time. At $200 it won't be a huge waste of funds and it would save some wear and tear on my new one if I got the initial learning mistakes out of the way using the rental. Maybe I can also have my grandpa try it out and use that to try and get him to go in on one with me before june.
If a new one comes along for a smoking deal I might bite but I can get a new bx23s for roughly $225 a month plus $25 a month insurance for 7 years with $4k down. I wouldn't be strapped for cash. The thing I most question is what happens if I want to sell or downgrade once my backhoe work is done and I still have a few years left on loan? That's another main reason I like owning things. If I want to sell I can just do it. What hoops will I have to jump through and who is likely to buy it for what it's worth if they can get new and do the same on a loan?
 
   / Bx1500 or hold out for a bigger unit? #100  
Hmm. June? I hope so. I was actually looking into all that last night and that ktac insurance.
A few days ago I contacted my insurance agent and asked about a tractor and if it was covered under my normal homeowners from theft. They said it was absolutely not covered on or off property. If I wanted insurance on property it would be $90 per year and the only thing that covers is theft if it's in locked garage. If on trailer or outside, not covered. If I want liability insurance on and off property that was over $500/yr. My agent really rubbed me the wrong way and I'm in process of changing agents or insurance companies or both. He has been on me for years about getting lIability for my recreational land. 99% of the time I'm the only one that goes out there and I wouldn't sue myself if I get hurt so what's the point. He asked if I store anything out there and I said yes, I have a plastic $200 menards shed to keep shovels, a few tools and some extra clothes etc. Nothing of value and if someone feels the need to steal any of it they obviously need it worse than I do. I don't have any bear traps or anything so what could they do? Pinch themselves in the door or with a pliers? Unless whoever trespasses is one of those intentional hot coffee spillers trying to make a buck I don't see the point of liabilit insurance. My agent said because of my improvements and structures on the land liability is required or I will be dropped from my homeowners insurance. He said unless I remove my improvements from the land I am in breach of contract and will be dropped unless I pay backpay to insure it back to the date of improvements which was many years ago. After contacting another agent who contacted the insurance company I was told that was an unethical lie. I am now really questioning my current coverage and if my agent was even looking out for me or just trying to make as much commission as possible. New agent said he'd recommend liability on it but backpay and dropping me for not covering it is just wrong. He said he can't force me to buy insurance I don't want. He thought that might actually be illegal. Pretty frustrating considering my current agent is/was a lifelong friend I graduated with and worked with at our first jobs.
Anyways. Back to the tractor. Ktac insurance covers way more than the homeowners or liability insurance at a better price so that's a no brainer especially if I buy a new tractor. Wife hates the idea of new tractor with a passion
If the 0% lasts until June, most of my major yard work should be complete by then. I'm tempted to just rent a backhoe bx asap when the ground thaws at about $200 for a single day and beat the snot out of it. See if it's what I want or need and hopefully pull the trigger or not on a new one after I get some real seat time. At $200 it won't be a huge waste of funds and it would save some wear and tear on my new one if I got the initial learning mistakes out of the way using the rental. Maybe I can also have my grandpa try it out and use that to try and get him to go in on one with me before june.
If a new one comes along for a smoking deal I might bite but I can get a new bx23s for roughly $225 a month plus $25 a month insurance for 7 years with $4k down. I wouldn't be strapped for cash. The thing I most question is what happens if I want to sell or downgrade once my backhoe work is done and I still have a few years left on loan? That's another main reason I like owning things. If I want to sell I can just do it. What hoops will I have to jump through and who is likely to buy it for what it's worth if they can get new and do the same on a loan?

Dump your insurance agent. He has no idea what he's talking about. Sounds like some young wanna-be.
It's likely if your policy is written properly, your tractor is not covered off your properties if you are working at someone else's... especially for money. If on a trailer attached to an insured car, it's covered by your auto insurance. Sitting on a trailer alone at Walmart while you run errands with the car, not covered under auto or homeowners. Btw, a movable temporary $200 shed is not an improvement. I've been running homeowners on my tractors for 16 years. Have the same discussion with my agent every purchase. I'm only thinking of going to Kubota for insurance for the all inclusive coverage.
 

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