Trap and release Raccoons

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   / Trap and release Raccoons #131  
but the fact remains that mammals and other groups with nervous systems naturally go into shock when attacked...they are not suffering the way some folks seem to think they are...shock is as much a part of nature as the predator/prey relationships...
That a good thing to know!!

From now on, seeing as those coon will be in shock and won't feel any pain, I'm going to start "gut shooting" them!

I mean why am I trying for clean kills?? Then I have to take them out back to get rid of them!!

IF they aren't feeling any pain, I can gut shoot them and let them run off!! That way they take care of the problem on disposal themselves!!

Thankyou very much for the education, that just took another thing off my work load!! And work it is, seeing I shoot 30 to 50 coon/possys a year!!

NO MORE of this for me!!

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SR
 
   / Trap and release Raccoons #132  
I will agree with Sawyer Rob - if the coons are destroying your property - they have to be taken care of.

Interesting picture - your coons are red with a brown striped tail. Ours are grey with a black striped tail.

I do have to admit - about the only wildlife I ever see 30 to 50 of in a year are ducks and geese. I haven't seen a coon in - gee- I guess 10 to 12 years - same with the skunks. I quit burning my garbage and had the local garbage agency pick it up. Coons & skunks went elsewhere for their midnight snacks.
 
   / Trap and release Raccoons #133  
That a good thing to know!!

From now on, seeing as those coon will be in shock and won't feel any pain, I'm going to start "gut shooting" them!

I mean why am I trying for clean kills?? Then I have to take them out back to get rid of them!!

IF they aren't feeling any pain, I can gut shoot them and let them run off!! That way they take care of the problem on disposal themselves!!

Thankyou very much for the education, that just took another thing off my work load!! And work it is, seeing I shoot 30 to 50 coon/possys a year!!

NO MORE of this for me!

SR
raccoons don't see humans as predators, they see them as the snack wagon...their natural reactions are entirely different...on a related note...large game animals like deer, elk etc., etc...do not react the same when they are shot as they do when attacked by natural predators...if they are hit in vital organs they may die of shock before the actual wound kills them (happens often with deer most hunters just don't realize it)...animals shot in not vital areas may suffer badly...
IMO it's the responsibility of anyone dispatching another living animal for whatever rhyme or reason that it should be done humanly...

Do ya think it's strange that quite a few of some of the most evil serial killers all liked to torture animals when they were young?
 
   / Trap and release Raccoons #134  
I think it's interesting that you "selective" pick when they are in pain/shock and when they aren't... Perhaps you can talk to and understand them too?? I bet that's how you know these things!

We have some AMAZING people on this site... You are so blessed with that!! lol

Oosik, it depends on if it's summer or winter fur and also, the pict. looks more red than they actually were/are...

SR
 
   / Trap and release Raccoons #135  
... I bet that's how you know these things!...

No it's called education in the study of wildlife biology...
 
   / Trap and release Raccoons #136  
No it's called education in the study of wildlife biology...

You mean classroom study?

I think Rob is referring to hands on experience.

I've witnessed humans react to injury/pain in the same manner you describe that animals do. How can that be when we are so different?
 
   / Trap and release Raccoons #137  
From now on, seeing as those coon will be in shock and won't feel any pain, I'm going to start "gut shooting" them!

I mean why am I trying for clean kills?? Then I have to take them out back to get rid of them!!

IF they aren't feeling any pain, I can gut shoot them and let them run off!! That way they take care of the problem on disposal themselves!!

SR

When animals are killed they should be killed as quickly and humanely as is possible. Not always easy with certain ones. But the above description is a concern. Here is what has been written by Michigan State University College of Law about those that act or speak that way:

Cruelty to animals and violence towards people have something in common: both types of victims are living beings, feel pain, experience distress, and may die from their injuries. Until recently, however, violence towards animals had been considered to be unrelated to violence towards children and the elderly, and other forms of domestic violence. A correlation has now been established between animal abuse, family violence, and other forms of community violence. A growing body of research indicates that people who commit acts of cruelty towards animals rarely stop there. Murderers and people who abuse their spouse or children had frequently harmed animals in the past. People who abuse animals may also be dangerous to people.
 
   / Trap and release Raccoons #138  
When animals are killed they should be killed as quickly and humanely as is possible. Not always easy with certain ones. But the above description is a concern. Here is what has been written by Michigan State University College of Law about those that act or speak that way:

Cruelty to animals and violence towards people have something in common: both types of victims are living beings, feel pain, experience distress, and may die from their injuries. Until recently, however, violence towards animals had been considered to be unrelated to violence towards children and the elderly, and other forms of domestic violence. A correlation has now been established between animal abuse, family violence, and other forms of community violence. A growing body of research indicates that people who commit acts of cruelty towards animals rarely stop there. Murderers and people who abuse their spouse or children had frequently harmed animals in the past. People who abuse animals may also be dangerous to people.

You surely understand that Rob humanely kills. He was simply making a point to pine, who claims the animals don't feel anything.
 
   / Trap and release Raccoons #139  
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   / Trap and release Raccoons #140  
...He was simply making a point to pine, who claims the animals don't feel anything...
You need to work on your reading comprehension skills... this is twice now you have falsely or mistakenly quoted something I have said...If you can't get something right about what others post you should learn to keep your mouth shut...!
 
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