Pole Barn VS Red Steel building - Need some more advice

[woodlandfarms]

Eddie, as always you bring up some fantastic points.

So to siding. I would love something different than Metal. I was considering Hardiboard, but big squares of hardiboard. We are into modern so... But I have no clue about the difference in costs... What other sidings are in your radar?

Secondly, assuming my siding is metal bu the building wood framed, how hard is to add a window? Or a door? I also ask the same about a metal building (which I hear is harder to do but would love opnions).

I will not be erecting the building. I want it done right. My neighbor is one of the best metal building guys in the region. he has offered his crew and labor at cost. But the concrete costs are so prohibitive. So I a have 2 pole barn guys on the hook...

Today I was offered a movie that would help fund the 3K sqft costs. Doesn't start till May but with that offer I think I am going to pull the trigger and get a buildiing going in the next couple of weeks.

 

[EddieWalker]

Hardie does come in 4x8 sheets, but the seams will need something over them like Hardie Trim. I'm not a fan, because on a flat wall, the trim will hold dust, and moisture. You really have to caulk it well to make sure water doesn't eventually get behind the trim and start to mold.

LP SmartSiding is another option. It's a high grade OSB like Zip System and Advantech, but with a wood grained finish on the exterior that holds paint well and looks nice. It have an overlapping seam, so you cannot tell where each sheet ends and begins. Similar to T1-11 plywood siding, but without the never ending maintenance of T1-11. SmartSiding also comes in other sizes like trim and soffits. I personally like it for the ceiling on a porch.

When working on a design, I spend a lot of time searching images, looking at what others have done, and then using different words or phrases to find even more ideas. If this is something that you plan on living with for the rest of your life, it's better to spend more and create what you really want. All of my plans are based on phases. Get so much done, save up some more, do some more and so on until it's done. Of course, it's never done because I'm always wanting to add on and make improvements to what I do.

 

[Industrial Toys]

A neighbor asked my advice on the weekend. He has a 20 X 40 pole building built in the 80s. He wanted to put a concrete floor in it and discovered poles rotted right off at ground level!

I suggested demolition and have a crew build a new building (right, this time) in a day. Problem is, he has solar (microfit) equipment on the roof!

Pay me now, or pay me later as they say.

 

[quicksandfarmer]

A neighbor asked my advice on the weekend. He has a 20 X 40 pole building built in the 80s. He wanted to put a concrete floor in it and discovered poles rotted right off at ground level!

I suggested demolition and have a crew build a new building (right, this time) in a day. Problem is, he has solar (microfit) equipment on the roof!

Pay me now, or pay me later as they say.

I've repaired a single rotted post by cutting it off a few inches off of the floor, taking out the bottom of the post, bolting a galvanized bracket to the bottom of the post and pouring concrete in the hole up to the bottom of the post. It has held up well. But I'm not sure i'd do a whole building that way.

When I had solar installed, part of the deal was that if I ever needed a new roof they would remove it and reinstall it at no charge. So tell the solar company you're getting a new roof, just leave out the part about a new rest of the building too! The original installation only took a day anyway. So even if you have to pay it's not going to be a big deal in the scheme of things.

 

[Stimw]

A neighbor asked my advice on the weekend. He has a 20 X 40 pole building built in the 80s. He wanted to put a concrete floor in it and discovered poles rotted right off at ground level!

I suggested demolition and have a crew build a new building (right, this time) in a day. Problem is, he has solar (microfit) equipment on the roof!

Pay me now, or pay me later as they say.

I have repaired rotting 6" X 6" by cutting off higher up, installing a new piece in the ground up to the cut and through bolting 1/8" x 5 1/2" X 2' angles boxing the joint. Had angles fabricated.

 

[Industrial Toys]

This guy has a long record of throwing good money after bad on old buildings.

 

[Creamer]

Many new buildings are built with three 2 x 6 s glued and screwed together - treated ones below ground and non-treated above ground. I would just put some of the below ground ones of these in the ground and up to the cut off post and then place a 2 x 6 one on each side to strengthen the joint.

 

[Oldoak]

Depending on the state, municipalities have adopted building codes which do not allow for wooden posts (whether treated or not) for pole buildings to be buried in the ground. Over the years, government reach has encroached far beyond the urban and suburban boundaries and out into our rural areas.

 

[747driver]

The pole barn I am getting built will have a Morton Perma Column design. The column is 6x6 x 5' 10,000 PSI concrete with rebar. The column will be put in a 12" x 4' hole then filled with concrete. Morton rep said this is the way they are now putting post up. Attached to the column will be 3 laminated 2x6s. The first 5 feet are treated.

 

[woodlandfarms]

So am I an idiot? (Don’t ask my wife that question). Why aren’t we/they just drilling out for Sono tubes then attaching the wood to that concrete? I like the Morton idea but not sure it is the most cost effective method