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When comparing same size CC saw but ranch:farm vs pro. Beside being able to rebuild, Is there a huge performance difference? Being both the same CC?

Often the "pro" model will have more power out of the same displacement. The cylinders often have better port designs (i.e. real transfer ports instead of troughs cut into the cylinder). That costs more to manufacture. Almost always the pro model will be lighter than the farm/ranch saw of the same displacement. To me, not being a big guy, a couple pounds makes a big difference. I can't use my MS460 as an all-around saw because I can't hold it up above my shoulders for a long time. This is why I have lighter saws for brush and limbing and small trees and save the 460 for big trees. Stihl (and everyone else) posts their power and weight specs. Some farm/ranch saws are heavy and weak, some are not too bad for their size. Sometimes saws the same displacement can differ- for example the MS250 and MS251CBE. The 251 has the same power but weighs 1.8 lbs more than the 250 (the 251 Woodboss only weighs 0.8 lbs more, and also has the same power).

Guys will say that you "have to" have a pro saw but if you're saving money or won't be cutting a lot, you might decide that you're ok with the farm/ranch model.

The 363CM weighs a little less than the 271 but makes a lot more power.
 
   / Tractors and wood! Show your pics #5,922  
So your saying jumping from ms270 to ms362 isn稚 worth it?

I guess my next question is this. When comparing same size CC saw but ranch:farm vs pro. Beside being able to rebuild, Is there a huge performance difference? Being both the same CC?

I would never own anything under 76 cc again, as the ability to cut through a log is just not there.

Here they sell a lot of Husky 562's, but as the dealer explained to me it is just because of their cheap cost. People buy them, run them for a year, then trade them in...and rinse and repeat. It is not that they are a great saw, they are a cheap saw. As he called them, "disposable saws." Kind of like the Ford Focus's that are out there; they get people to work, but are pretty basic and underpowered. They work, but people are far better off to skip the Husky 562 and go with a Stihl MS462, they will never regret it.

I have not compared pro to homeowner saws in 20 years as I cut semi-professionally at around 600 cord per year, but the handles and such were what I noticed makes the difference. Homeowners have a lot more plastic, where pro have more magnesium...but is steel at least. It makes a big difference day in and day out. 20 years ago I tried to use a 029 homeowners saw and took it back after a month and got a professional saw. It just could not take the daily pounding.
 
   / Tractors and wood! Show your pics #5,923  
I would never own anything under 76 cc again, as the ability to cut through a log is just not there.

Here they sell a lot of Husky 562's, but as the dealer explained to me it is just because of their cheap cost. People buy them, run them for a year, then trade them in...and rinse and repeat. It is not that they are a great saw, they are a cheap saw. As he called them, "disposable saws." Kind of like the Ford Focus's that are out there; they get people to work, but are pretty basic and underpowered. They work, but people are far better off to skip the Husky 562 and go with a Stihl MS462, they will never regret it.

I have not compared pro to homeowner saws in 20 years as I cut semi-professionally at around 600 cord per year, but the handles and such were what I noticed makes the difference. Homeowners have a lot more plastic, where pro have more magnesium...but is steel at least. It makes a big difference day in and day out. 20 years ago I tried to use a 029 homeowners saw and took it back after a month and got a professional saw. It just could not take the daily pounding.

My ford focus runs great 200k and only 15k brand new back in 2010:thumbsup:
 
   / Tractors and wood! Show your pics #5,924  
With all that said, that is a good looking saw you have. It also looks brand new out of the box.
When that pict. was taken, that saw had 6 tanks of fuel through it... Not many really...

SR
 
   / Tractors and wood! Show your pics #5,925  
My ford focus runs great 200k and only 15k brand new back in 2010:thumbsup:

Yeah I know, I run them too, but I buy used ones. Buy them at 100,000 miles using cash, then run them for 250,000 miles and rinse and repeat. They get the job done, but they are a bare bones car too.

Chainsaws are a little bit different because unlike a car they pay for themselves the first day they cut wood. I admit I made a mistake with the Husky 562, buying it because of its cheap price, but all things considered, opting for the Stihl 461 would have been a lot better decision. A lot more saw for not a whole lot of money (or cords of wood) more.

Husky 562: 10 cord of wood to get return on investment
Stihl MS 461: 15 cord of wood to get return on investment
 
   / Tractors and wood! Show your pics #5,926  
From reading my thought is it is hard to miss something if you never tried it...

My Echo Top Handle Limb saw has been a real trouper... keep it with my on the truck and always ready to go... cut through a 34 dia tree that fell across the road with only a 14 inch bar... it just kept going.

The other saw is Stihl 250... plus about 5 of the Stihl 170 for the Christmas Tree farm...

The real go to saw on for the Christmas Tree Farm is the Stihl Cordless... goes all day.
 
   / Tractors and wood! Show your pics #5,927  
So your saying jumping from ms270 to ms362 isn稚 worth it?

I guess my next question is this. When comparing same size CC saw but ranch:farm vs pro. Beside being able to rebuild, Is there a huge performance difference? Being both the same CC?


It really depends on what you want your bigger saw to do. Personally I've got a lot of mature hardwoods in my woods and occasionally throwing on a 28-36" bar is really handy. For that a 70+cc saw is necessary. Also, I prefer to use a saw in a situation where it's got more HP than needed. When I'm cutting firewood I'll use a 16" bar on a ported 50cc or 60cc saw. If I'm in big logs I'll run a 20" bar but I want 70ccs at least. It just makes it really fun instead of being a chore.

But everyone has different wants and needs. I will say that if you have two saws with the same weight and one is a lot more powerful there won't be much reason to grab the other one.
 
   / Tractors and wood! Show your pics #5,928  
When that pict. was taken, that saw had 6 tanks of fuel through it... Not many really...

SR

I find it interesting you had an Oregon bar and I assume chain on it when it was new. Don't like the Husky bars?
 
   / Tractors and wood! Show your pics #5,929  
I have a Husky bar that came with my saw and a Oregon bar. I don’t really notice much difference. Although the husky bar gets a lot more use because it’s on my preferred saw.
 
   / Tractors and wood! Show your pics #5,930  
Guys will say that you "have to" have a pro saw but if you're saving money or won't be cutting a lot, you might decide that you're ok with the farm/ranch model..

True, you can get a LOT of work out of a non pro major brand saw. You do not have to have a pro saw.

I happen to like Stihl pro saws, but the farm ranch models are good as well as are some homeowner models. Likely the same with other brands.
 

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