30 second oil change - NEW oil and filter system

[jgayman]

That's a crazy sales gimmick John Deere dreamed up.

Now that you've saved so much time by changing the whole sump, what do you do with this oil-filled hazmat unit? Who accepts oil-filled filters and how do you get it there without making a mess? Is it a 4-hour drive to the nearest filter-recycling place?

Does the aftermath take longer to deal with ---- than to change oil the old way?

Deere has stated that dealers will be accepting the old Quick Change cartridges.

 

[jgayman]

I doubt there is much mess, likely a valve in the tip like a quick connect hyd. coupler.

Considering the filter is basically upside down as you remove it I suspect you are correct about a valve. Although I doubt it is as sophisticated as a quick change hydraulic coupler. It is probably nothing more than a spring loaded rubber gasket that closes against the holes.

 

[Agvg]

Must be brilliant, easy to change, no mess with old oil, so easy that the average user can do it, no errors refilling new oil. Quite sure it cheaper than let the dealer do an ordinary oil change. And the disposal should not be a problem, you have to recycle the oil anyway so deliver a oil can or this must be much the same.

 

[4570Man]

Anyone not capable of doing such a straight forward task as changing lawn mower oil shouldn’t own a lawnmower.

 

[aczlan]

Anyone not capable of doing such a straight forward task as changing lawn mower oil shouldn’t own a lawnmower.

I can see it for those who dont work on their own cars and dont have (or want to have) an oil drain pan to keep around.

Aaron Z

 

[4570Man]

I can see it for those who dont work on their own cars and dont have (or want to have) an oil drain pan to keep around.

Aaron Z

Changing oil on a lawnmower is easier than changing most vehicle oil. Most lawnmowers have a oil drain tube out the side and the filter on the side.

 

[tacticalturnip]

Anyone not capable of doing such a straight forward task as changing lawn mower oil shouldn稚 own a lawnmower.

Well it's a good thing you don't dictate policy.

It's not about ability anyhow. This new system is much faster, and in theory much cleaner, than a traditional oil change. Thus your average suburbanite schlub is more likely to do it, as it requires the least amount of time and effort possible. This then results in more oil changes being done, improving the lifespan of the machine- improving Deere's image- and also allowing them to cash in on a proprietary system.

I owned a D160 for 7 years, and it was an excellent lawn tractor. I also understood it's limitations. It's a great machine for it's intended purpose. Is it a 30 year machine? No, but neither is any other new machine in it's price point. However with proper maintenance they are capable of being 15 year machines.

I like servicing my machines, but I'm strange like that. The average person doesn't. They view preventative maintenance as a PITA. This will either improve the overall long-term reliability of the 100 series, or backfire and tank it.

 

[tomplum]

It will all be for nil when the air filter is so dirty it starts drawing dirt into the engine, the oil consumption starts and connecting rod set breaks. Or the valve guides migrate because the cooling system hasn't been cleaned. Or when it can't steer due to never being greased. Or the deck spindles fail because of the same. See a pattern here? Doing a third of an oil change and thinking you did your maintenance- hopefully the kit comes with a dunce cap.

 

[Gale Hawkins]

Well it's a good thing you don't dictate policy.

It's not about ability anyhow. This new system is much faster, and in theory much cleaner, than a traditional oil change. Thus your average suburbanite schlub is more likely to do it, as it requires the least amount of time and effort possible. This then results in more oil changes being done, improving the lifespan of the machine- improving Deere's image- and also allowing them to cash in on a proprietary system.

I owned a D160 for 7 years, and it was an excellent lawn tractor. I also understood it's limitations. It's a great machine for it's intended purpose. Is it a 30 year machine? No, but neither is any other new machine in it's price point. However with proper maintenance they are capable of being 15 year machines.

I like servicing my machines, but I'm strange like that. The average person doesn't. They view preventative maintenance as a PITA. This will either improve the overall long-term reliability of the 100 series, or backfire and tank it.

That was a great post on so many different levels.

 

[Deere Dude]

If you hate the mess I usually get in a normal oil change, this would be a great deal.

If you hire someone to change oil for you and pay $40 an hour for labor, 30 seconds is a money saver over 20 minutes. I am quite sure DIYers get a chuckle out of this but for the white collar professional who still wants maintenance done to their little yard mower, this may be a good idea. He could even do it himself, maybe.