Hay fire Today

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majorwager

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Route 531 re-opened after firefighters battle fire in Ogden hay field

Newspaper are cheapskates, must pay to see photos.

Field w/ large square bales burned, 12 acres or so. Large 4WD tractor burned, (4 equal tires), not sure about baler.

Smoke closed intrastate highway. Many Fire Companies responded.

If interested, other news sources in Ogden NY area can be searched, which will likely ID the tractor, provide photos, more info. 93 degrees here today, high humidity. No Loss of LIFE!!!!!

This is a large farm operation, presume adequate insurance coverage.

Route 531 closed after large hay fire in Ogden
 
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Dang...talk about a having a bad day :eek: glad nobody was hurt.
 
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Brings back memories of the Strawberry Hill wildfire of 2015 here in my area. ATV'd to the top of a tall bun and could watch close and way off in the distance as stacked bales of hay burned. A frightening nighttime sight.


Very glad to hear - - no lives were lost. Insurance can replace everything else.
 
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It's getting too common, combines have always been troublesome in that regard (from hot bearings and chaff), now these new tractors with dpf's doing active regens in the fields with hay chaff and pollen on everything then heat an exhaust filter to 1300 degrees with combustible material laying on it.
It's a recipe for fire.
 
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It's getting too common, combines have always been troublesome in that regard (from hot bearings and chaff), now these new tractors with dpf's doing active regens in the fields with hay chaff and pollen on everything then heat an exhaust filter to 1300 degrees with combustible material laying on it.
It's a recipe for fire.

The article does not state what caused the fire, so hinting at a DPF causing this is misleading.
DPF’s are located in the engine compartment and are insulated and shielded and are no hotter than a regular exhaust pipe. So fires due to DPF’s will be few and far between. Haven’t heard of one yet and they have been out for several years now. The only fire related issue I have heard of were on 2008 Ford Superduties. For a short time They were dumping too much fuel during the regen cycles and flames would come out the exhaust. A quick flash and issue was resolved.
 
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DPF痴 are located in the engine compartment and are insulated and shielded and are no hotter than a regular exhaust pipe. So fires due to DPF痴 will be few and far between. Haven稚 heard of one yet and they have been out for several years now. The only fire related issue I have heard of were on 2008 Ford Superduties. For a short time They were dumping too much fuel during the regen cycles and flames would come out the exhaust. A quick flash and issue was resolved.

The breadth of what you know and believe to be true falls short of encompassing the scope of US agriculture. There are several posts per month on the mainstream Ag forum New Ag Talk documenting relatively low hour Tier IV tractors and combines burning to the ground. Combining sunflowers and some small grains seems to be particularly hazardous.
 
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The scope of what you know and believe to be true falls short of encompassing the scope of US agriculture. There are several posts per month on the mainstream Ag forum New Ag Talk documenting relatively low hour Tier IV tractors and combines burning to the ground.

So prior to DPF’s there was never 1 combine or tractor fire? Stuff happens things go wrong. Maybe too much electronics on these new combines and tractors. A short can start a fire in no time. Can’t tell you how many gasoline powered cars catch fire as they drive down the roadway.
 
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So prior to DPF’s there was never 1 combine or tractor fire? Stuff happens things go wrong. Maybe too much electronics on these new combines and tractors. A short can start a fire in no time. Can’t tell you how many gasoline powered cars catch fire as they drive down the roadway.

Did I say there was never a fire before DPF’s? No, I did not. You win. Good night.
 
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The article does not state what caused the fire, so hinting at a DPF causing this is misleading.
DPF’s are located in the engine compartment and are insulated and shielded and are no hotter than a regular exhaust pipe. So fires due to DPF’s will be few and far between. Haven’t heard of one yet and they have been out for several years now. The only fire related issue I have heard of were on 2008 Ford Superduties. For a short time They were dumping too much fuel during the regen cycles and flames would come out the exhaust. A quick flash and issue was resolved.

Insulated and shielded!!! and heated, I've not seen an engine compartment that didn't get dust and chaff into it, that exhaust system also certainly runs hotter then prior to dpf's
 
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Insulated and shielded!!! and heated, I've not seen an engine compartment that didn't get dust and chaff into it, that exhaust system also certainly runs hotter then prior to dpf's

On large tractors and combines that run at full throttle all day long, the turbo chargers can get cherry red hot. They will stay hot till it is throttled down. DPF’s regenerate for about 15-30 minutes. Some makes have to be stopped to do this, some can regenerate on the go. If one is going to be doing a lot of work in very dry material, they should blow out the engine compartment there is no engine compartment that debris can not get in. I’m sure when these expensive rigs burn up the insurance company investigates to find out what caused the fire. But any part of the exhaust can cause a fire if exposed to combustibles. Bad bearing, belts, electrical shorts can all cause fires. So far the alternative to DPF’s on smaller tractors an aggressive EGR with a DOC are not trouble free.
Could a DPF cause a fire? Yes it could. But no more than the rest of the exhaust system.
 
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