Oil & Fuel UTF at Kioti Dealer

Grateful11 · Jul 8, 2018

murph1 said:
I used Schaefer 303 and it works great in my machine!

Glad it's working out for you.

State of Georgia becomes 2nd State to Ban 303 Fluids
State of Georgia becomes 2nd State to Ban 33 Fluids - TractorLife

Buggs67 · Jul 17, 2018

I found this on Tractor Life's site, but I've never heard of these oils (or companies)
Authenticated Program - TractorLife

liberty2701 · Jul 20, 2018

You should look at Amsoil ath. 5w30. It is the best fluid on the market but epensive. I have been using it since new on my Dk50se.

DieselBound · Jul 28, 2018

Data is your friend!

http://www.pqiamerica.com/

They don't seem to cover hydraulic fluids but engine oils, yes. Interesting to see that some generic-named stuff (e.g. store branded) is very close to highly priced, big name stuff. I recently used data from here to assess a change in oil I'm running in all my equipment.

If I had the money to buy nothing but Amsoil I'd also likely be running something other than a Kioti. Life's a compromise, Kioti provided (for what I saw) a good value.

liberty2701 · Jul 29, 2018

DieselBound said:
Data is your friend!

http://www.pqiamerica.com/

They don't seem to cover hydraulic fluids but engine oils, yes. Interesting to see that some generic-named stuff (e.g. store branded) is very close to highly priced, big name stuff. I recently used data from here to assess a change in oil I'm running in all my equipment.

If I had the money to buy nothing but Amsoil I'd also likely be running something other than a Kioti. Life's a compromise, Kioti provided (for what I saw) a good value.

What could possibly be better than running a Kioti!

DieselBound · Jul 30, 2018

liberty2701 said:
What could possibly be better than running a Kioti!

A Kubota. This is my opinion (only). I have both and the Kubota (though older, and a low-end model at that) is a lot higher quality (materials and finish). And Kubota's dealer network is tops: my Kioti dealer just continues to un-impress me (I'm now staring at another rear axle leak with 300 hrs- from the side that wasn't leaking before but the dealer resealed along with the other side that was leaking- in general, and with several things, they can't get anything fixed the FIRST time). Not saying that Kioti isn't a good machine, just that it's not top-tier like Kubota (which carries a top-tier price).

liberty2701 · Jul 30, 2018

DieselBound said:
A Kubota. This is my opinion (only). I have both and the Kubota (though older, and a low-end model at that) is a lot higher quality (materials and finish). And Kubota's dealer network is tops: my Kioti dealer just continues to un-impress me (I'm now staring at another rear axle leak with 300 hrs- from the side that wasn't leaking before but the dealer resealed along with the other side that was leaking- in general, and with several things, they can't get anything fixed the FIRST time). Not saying that Kioti isn't a good machine, just that it's not top-tier like Kubota (which carries a top-tier price).

Do you think Kubota quality today is as good as the older models?

DieselBound · Jul 30, 2018

liberty2701 said:
Do you think Kubota quality today is as good as the older models?

I couldn't say as I don't own a newer one. I just see Kioti as a less-mature manufacturer: this is borne out by looking at the dealer network (and the dealer feedback surveys). Again, Kioti is a good value; I was making this point- but, it's not a top-tier (which, again, carries a top-tier price).

We're getting off-topic a bit. I only injected my comment to bring up a point that "value" ought not be overlooked: highest priced may or may not get you the best value (but it's still likely the highest quality).

liberty2701 · Jul 30, 2018

Got it. Thanks

Buggs67 · Aug 11, 2018

DieselBound said:
I couldn't say as I don't own a newer one. I just see Kioti as a less-mature manufacturer: this is borne out by looking at the dealer network (and the dealer feedback surveys). Again, Kioti is a good value; I was making this point- but, it's not a top-tier (which, again, carries a top-tier price).

We're getting off-topic a bit. I only injected my comment to bring up a point that "value" ought not be overlooked: highest priced may or may not get you the best value (but it's still likely the highest quality).

I bought the Kioti because of the value. More for the $$$. For what I paid for my CK2510 TLB I could only buy a BX25. A good machine but smaller and lighter. I don't regret the decision. I regret more not buying a tractor years before when it first crossed my mind.