Since there are no federal regs regarding winter diesel, it's up to the seller (unless you have state regs) and they keep the blend/treatment to prevent waxing to "x degrees below the normal temperature for that month". I know here, it's difficult to get a straight answer when asked how/when they treat. For the most part there is no issue with a sliding scale through the winter to match temps since diesel is used as it is bought for use in trucks. Storing it for occasional winter tractor use raises the risk for me so I treat on my own. :thumbsup:
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Since there are no federal regs regarding winter diesel, it's up to the seller (unless you have state regs) and they keep the blend/treatment to prevent waxing to "x degrees below the normal temperature for that month". I know here, it's difficult to get a straight answer when asked how/when they treat. For the most part there is no issue with a sliding scale through the winter to match temps since diesel is used as it is bought for use in trucks. Storing it for occasional winter tractor use raises the risk for me so I treat on my own. :thumbsup:
atsah
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They don't do a very good of it here that's for sure.. It's pretty easy for me to go to wally world and buy enough additive for the year for $12.00..
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Yeah, I think the last 5 or 6 posts point out that, in effect, what you need to do/best to do depends on a bunch of things -- how much you use, how often you get refilled by the supplier, how cold it gets or is predicted to get at your location, etc.
Like Ford850 said, I have never been able to get a 100% believable answer from a filling station or other fuel source.
In diesel engined cars I have filled up with #2 in the Wash DC area, driven into the mountains and had the thing gel on me on a mountain top around midnight that night in late December. Also plugged in the car engine heater in Troy VT, slept soundly and got up next morn with 10 below zero OAT. Started right up and went about 1/4 mile when it died with gel. That's where the locals educated me on the 50/50 mix with kerosene.
As I think atsah said, you do what works best in your circumstances.
Like Ford850 said, I have never been able to get a 100% believable answer from a filling station or other fuel source.
In diesel engined cars I have filled up with #2 in the Wash DC area, driven into the mountains and had the thing gel on me on a mountain top around midnight that night in late December. Also plugged in the car engine heater in Troy VT, slept soundly and got up next morn with 10 below zero OAT. Started right up and went about 1/4 mile when it died with gel. That's where the locals educated me on the 50/50 mix with kerosene.
As I think atsah said, you do what works best in your circumstances.
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Really? How cold does it get there? Colder than Alaska??
I was in -62F in Alaska without snake oil and my diesel ran just fine, of course, I was running #1 diesel fuel in it.
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atsah
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That’s great, glad you got through it and was able to make it back.. That’s super duper.. I think we figured out how to not gel up, back to seafoam..
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Sawyer Rob
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Make it back?? I lived there 25 years and owned diesels THERE from 1982 on, until I left...
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atsah
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Okay so you never had a gelling issue in 25 years even at -62 just using #1, I think we got it.. I'm sure they cut the fuel in half in AK..
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Hey guys -- to the extent we want this dead horse beaten some more, there is a very interesting wealth of info at Winter diesel fuel - Wikipedia which contrasts regulations in many countries, lists the "Cold Filter Plugging Point" CFPP determined by standardized tests, etc. Pretty educational.
Sawyer Rob
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THAT'S what you got out of MY post?? I guess YOU didn't get it!
What you SHOULD have got is, I don't believe you that you HAVE to run snake oil in the cold! AND I also don't believe YOU "have to" use snake oil where YOU live because of the cold!
There ya go, I spelled it out for you... lol
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atsah
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PERFECT.. That clears it up for me, YOU DON"T need to explain further, I'm sure YOU have other things to do today..