Is this a war on cash or a war on privacy? Or both?

[Einthewoods]

As to what are people going to do for employment in the future?

:confused3:

Yes, there will be good paying jobs in tech support. But eventually the machines will be able to diagnose and repair themselves. It's only gonna get worse, as far as available good paying jobs for the population goes. Health care and not for profits are gonna be the big employers in 10 years.

My company also has followed a similar path, though have lost 10's of thousands of people since I started 20+ years ago. We are diving heavily in AI and machine learning now. Makes all our previous automation look like child's play.

My team was 40+ people and now about half of that and even some of them are overseas. I coached all of them to learn everything they can about test automation (it's a test team) and is the only reason I still have the folks I do. Now AI is scaring the **** out of everyone like HAL from 2000. Not really scaring....most folks are numb to the idea of losing their jobs after making it through the bloodbaths that were the last 15 years or so.

 

[vvanders]

RF is it's own special breed of black magic. You'll be hard pressed to find any greybeard analog engineers these days much less RF. Back when I left my last industry I looked briefly into getting a formal EE degree, however there's almost nothing in the consumer electronics space any more. Most EEs these days work on the research side of things over at Intel/Xilinx/etc which isn't really my cup of tea.

Plenty of programmers around these days, separating the good ones from the not so great is the tricky part.

 

[dragoneggs]

This thread is drifting but okay by me. My comment needs to be prefaced, as I am a mechanical engineer by schooling/experience. I see automation and not taking jobs away but to allow people to do jobs that are more challenging and are not just repetitious. To me, these operations unleash many to do things that require a brain to analyze and act. Much tougher for a machine as they are only programmed based on 'standard' practices.

Anyways lots to talk about on this tangent but I don't see automation as a curse to human workers. Many ways to contribute to society... some we have maybe yet to appreciate.

 

[Oldoak]

No automation is effeminately not a curse. But most of you are referring to the upper echelon in the employment picture which leaves out most of the general masses. Unfortunately, I don't see the same great employment opportunities awaiting the general public today as there were years ago.

 

[Einthewoods]

No automation is effeminately not a curse. But most of you are referring to the upper echelon in the employment picture which leaves out most of the general masses. Unfortunately, I don't see the same great employment opportunities awaiting the general public today as there were years ago.

Agee. the biggest and first jobs to go for my company was the manufacturing side. Thousands and thousands of jobs going in a ten year period. All overseas.

Once the bean counters slash one function, they started looking at the R&D side...now that is way smaller. I talk to new colleagues in 3 countries on the other side of the world all before breakfast.

****, if I want to talk to HR about something I talk to someone from India...in the US!!!! Like we couldn't find anyone here to fill a front line HR position. And behind that person, her team is in India. Nothing like exchanging emails about your personal stuff with someone from a 3rd world country.

 

[thepumpguysc]

WOW.. this thread went WAY OFF the rails.!!!

 

[two_bit_score]

No automation is effeminately not a curse. But most of you are referring to the upper echelon in the employment picture which leaves out most of the general masses. Unfortunately, I don't see the same great employment opportunities awaiting the general public today as there were years ago.

“effeminately“


Really?

 

[Einthewoods]

WOW.. this thread went WAY OFF the rails.!!!

Each person I am talking about has a drivers license and cash. :laughing: See, right back on track now.

 

[Howling]

I do factory machine control systems. Have seen two trends with clients over the years.

First is corporate bean counters cutting the 'non-direct labor costs'. This translates to the engineers for R&D, product design and manufacturing support, along with the maintenance staff. As the engineering departments keeps getting smaller the focus has shifted from long term projects of improving products and production efficiency to fire fighting of failures to keep the production lines running. Can only patch and repair machines and productions lines so long before need to upgrade or replace them.

Second is much less of the younger generation is going in to the hands on trades. As the older generation retires it is getting harder to find good electricians, plumbers, maintenance technicians, etc. The building trades are having similar problems finding the next generation of workers. If we want to get keep US manufacturing going need to find a way to encourage kids to take up these trades.

 

[Diggin It]

No automation is effeminately not a curse.

“effeminately“


Really?

I'm guessing that's AutoCorrect speech for 'evidently'. Ya know, 'puters make everything better, more exact and more efficient than people.

Really.