Is this a war on cash or a war on privacy? Or both?

[Diggin It]

What is the difference between this and "Welfare" and "Homeless" people? Seems to me it is only increasing the pool of people who don't/can't/won't work for their living. When do we run out of money for them?

Businesses don't care about people. They care about beans. That's all they count.

 

[MossRoad]

It's not about if a business cares about people. You shouldn't operate a healthy business by giving people jobs to do nothing. You maximize profits by not spending if you don't have to. At my old job, I was always amazed that after every mass reduction in force (not layoffs. permanent reductions), we still got the product out without increasing labor hours of the remaining employees. That was due to two things:

1. Better automation
2. People weren't working to their maximum potential.

And before anyone thinks we were being worked like dogs, I never saw anyone keel over and die on the job from being overworked. That goes for both the labor jobs and the office jobs.

 

[Jstpssng]

Decades ago when I was working in the apple orchard they hired someone to help with the pruning. He has grown up with money, but at the time was living in a one room cabin with a hand pump out front. The owner was talking about buying a new mower which could get under the trees. Darryl, the new guy couldn't understand why they would pay $1100 for a machine when people could do it with a scythe?
it just so happened that there was a row of trees with raspberries growing up underneath so that spring they handed him a scythe and told him to have at it. After about two days he allowed how maybe a piee of machinery might be a good thing, after all.

\The question on the table though is, as things get more and more automated and jobs get shipped overseas how do the people make a living who once held those jobs?
Like it or not, it isn't everybody who is cut out to be am IT person or a doctor.

 

[riptides]

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\The question on the table though is, as things get more and more automated and jobs get shipped overseas how do the people make a living who once held those jobs?
Like it or not, it isn't everybody who is cut out to be am IT person or a doctor.

Who is to say where the jobs will go or what they will be?

Fully 3/4 of some clients I work with have jobs and skill sets that did not exist 5 to 10 years ago.

Education and change are the only constants.

 

[MossRoad]

Decades ago when I was working in the apple orchard they hired someone to help with the pruning. He has grown up with money, but at the time was living in a one room cabin with a hand pump out front. The owner was talking about buying a new mower which could get under the trees. Darryl, the new guy couldn't understand why they would pay $1100 for a machine when people could do it with a scythe?
it just so happened that there was a row of trees with raspberries growing up underneath so that spring they handed him a scythe and told him to have at it. After about two days he allowed how maybe a piee of machinery might be a good thing, after all.

\The question on the table though is, as things get more and more automated and jobs get shipped overseas how do the people make a living who once held those jobs?
Like it or not, it isn't everybody who is cut out to be am IT person or a doctor.

While cutting raspberries in an orchard isn't going to get shipped overseas. It is going to get automated. So it's still a job that one person on a machine will replace many hand laborers. So, you are correct in that question as to what jobs are going to be left for people to do in this country.

But you have to also look at current unemployment rates in this country.... very low. People are working. They might not be the jobs they want to do. And they might not be as good paying as they want. But people are working. The only ones around here that aren't working are people that either can't work due to disability, don't want to work, or are unemployable (for a variety of reasons).

 

[two_bit_score]

While cutting raspberries in an orchard isn't going to get shipped overseas. It is going to get automated. So it's still a job that one person on a machine will replace many hand laborers. So, you are correct in that question as to what jobs are going to be left for people to do in this country.

But you have to also look at current unemployment rates in this country.... very low. People are working. They might not be the jobs they want to do. And they might not be as good paying as they want. But people are working. The only ones around here that aren't working are people that either can't work due to disability, don't want to work, or are unemployable (for a variety of reasons).

Sometimes it's funny how those who don't want to work or think they are unemployable suddenly start cleaning up and looking for a job when the welfare runs out.

 

[ultrarunner]

Only a comment... knew a lot of people on extended unemployment when the Real Estate Market collapsed...

Several were tenants at property I managed.

One very likable guy had a graphic artist job and all around sign guy... he was very busy and then the bottom fell out... right after he got married.

Anyway... unemployment worked out well for him... spent almost 2 full years as mister mom...

When the final extension of unemployment was about to run out... the company where he had worked called him back... there were 16 full time at the peak... 3 of which were family... so 13 employees.

Of the 13 only two were called back and he was one of the two.

He said staying home full time with his daughter and getting something like $1800 was great... he probably would have stayed home forever... wife had a decent job with the city...

 

[MossRoad]

When I was given 6 weeks notice that I would lose my 30 year job last June, I had an interview lined up within 2 hours, and a job offer the next business day. So, I was unemployed for about negative 6 weeks!

 

[buckeyefarmer]

Tell them to contact the jobs placement folks at Purdue University.

Programmers for what? Just interested in the subject, not a job for myself. :

Have one engineer from Purdue. Most are from Va Tech.

We do some firmware for products, and other applications including apps. C++, android, and others.

I have been automating some of our testing.

Fast food always needs people, and other service industries.

 

[Industrial Toys]

The ROYAL Bank is getting rid of my passbook. Apparently the printers are too service intensive. I remember when the teller used to right in my book with pen or pencil. Why can't they go back to that? Pen and pencil have little maintenance.