Will water and sand be the next oil?

[coralhead]

Yes it does...

I still was never ever to explain to my Euro friends why California charges a fee NOT TO OPERATE your vehicle and more so why we pay it.

Because you all want to........and you live in CA

 

[California]

... because restoring a vehicle from non-op to licensed, or tracing it if it is stolen, is a heck of a lot easier than if it never existed.

 

[California]

Filing non-op avoids late registration penalties if operation is resumed later.

Non-op is often used for commercial, especially farm, vehicles that can be licensed for one or two quarters in a year and left non-op, without road use tax, the rest of the time.

 

[ultrarunner]

I have many cars that were non-op prior to the law requiring a fee for non-op...

It is most time consuming in that this is a law after the fact... in my case... I do have a title in my name, my current address and last registration... still requires a record reconstruction and several times I have had to get my elected representative involved... also, several have had continuous insurance.

Some of the vehicles last registered to me in the 1970's...

We had a very simple system but simple and only required a certificate of Non-Op be filed at the time current tags paid for... as long as there were no citations... that was it... pay the current year and good to go.

Owning 50 vehicles what was once simple is anything but...

If I had county zoning... I would just go for an occupational license... Dealer, Wholesaler... etc and be done with it one Dealer Plate and I could drive any of them...

Since implementation I trailer 98% of the time... some cars had $150+ license fees and were driven 20 to 50 miles in a year... some horseless carriage even much less.

To stay on point... I have used my Model A pickup when it had current tags to pick up sacks of sand and concrete mix often... always drew a nice crowd too.

 

[Jstpssng]

Getting back to the original question; we have companies pumping it out of the ground by the tankerful, to be bottled elsewhere and sold wherever. To the best of my knowledge they pay no fee for the "privilege" of depleting our aquifers. It's quite a contrast to the way that it apparently is in the western states. While there never will be a worldwide shortage of water, the day is going to come when clean water is more valuable than oil.

 

[reb]

Ask the folks in Oregon about the laws prohibiting them from collecting that water off their own roofs.

That is the law in Colorado.

 

[CalG]

I just thought about the conflict in the thread title.

NEXT OIL?

At this time, We (humans) have discovered and uncovered more oil than we can calculate use for.

What a comparison! Make sand out of petroleum. Everything else is!

 

[oosik]

There are many crazy - difficult to enforce laws - all over the place. What does Oregon have - rainwater collection police??? Man - I'm glad MY tax dollars aren't going there. I've never collected rainwater. Perhaps this picture taken off my front porch explains why. Five acres of open water - 80 feet deep & five acres of shallow water with cattails. Totally contained within my property. Plus 17 acres of the big lake immediately to the south.


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[Oaktree]

Filing non-op avoids late registration penalties if operation is resumed later.

Non-op is often used for commercial, especially farm, vehicles that can be licensed for one or two quarters in a year and left non-op, without road use tax, the rest of the time.

I'm really confused. I've never heard of having to pay NOT to use or register a vehicle. What's the reasoning behind this or is this just politicians making weird laws because they can?

 

[Steppenwolfe]

There are many crazy - difficult to enforce laws - all over the place. What does Oregon have - rainwater collection police??? Man - I'm glad MY tax dollars aren't going there. I've never collected rainwater. Perhaps this picture taken off my front porch explains why. Five acres of open water - 80 feet deep & five acres of shallow water with cattails. Totally contained within my property. Plus 17 acres of the big lake immediately to the south.


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You may own the land... but the government probably has rights to the water.