Price Check B2320 Price Check and Advice

[elia57]

Hi folks,

Great site, been doing a lot of research and I'm now on my way to pulling the trigger on a B2320 with some implements. Wanted to get some thoughts on the selections and also price that the local dealer is offering.

$12,442 - B2320DT Manual
$2,400 - LA304FL 48" pin on bucket
$7,800 - BH65 backhoe, 12" bucket
$600 - Assembly of loader/backhoe
$2,472 - Landpride RTR1250 50" tine tiller
$3,380 - Rineri TRD100 39" hammer flail mower
($500) - Kubota/Landpride implement discount
($900) - Dealer discount

I'm also looking at the Woodmaxx TM86H chipper for $2849 and maybe a box scraper too.

I'm on 5 acres of field, looking to put in a small vineyard, orchard and food plots. I'm trying to get the most HP for the chipper and mower while maintaining a narrow width for mobility. A bunch of postings talked up the Caroni TL1200FSC flail but the dealer highly recommends paying a bit more up front for the Rineri for a much stronger and durable mower.

Super subjective here... but I'll mention anyways I've driven both the manual and HST and I think I'll be ok with the manual. First tractor so I won't have the long-term experience on the HST to regret it, plus they are much more expensive so I'd rather have the money spent on implements. I think most of my loader work would be for spreading compost/chips so I think I can live with that, rest of work will be working the fields so pop it in gear and let it roll.

Thoughts? Am I on the right track? How do the prices look? Had another dealer quote me out similar gear and came in much higher with delivery/build fees.

Thanks again for an awesome site and great info!!

 

[rngrrymd]

Hi folks,

Great site, been doing a lot of research and I'm now on my way to pulling the trigger on a B2320 with some implements. Wanted to get some thoughts on the selections and also price that the local dealer is offering.

$12,442 - B2320DT Manual
$2,400 - LA304FL 48" pin on bucket
$7,800 - BH65 backhoe, 12" bucket
$600 - Assembly of loader/backhoe
$2,472 - Landpride RTR1250 50" tine tiller
$3,380 - Rineri TRD100 39" hammer flail mower
($500) - Kubota/Landpride implement discount
($900) - Dealer discount

I'm also looking at the Woodmaxx TM86H chipper for $2849 and maybe a box scraper too.

I'm on 5 acres of field, looking to put in a small vineyard, orchard and food plots. I'm trying to get the most HP for the chipper and mower while maintaining a narrow width for mobility. A bunch of postings talked up the Caroni TL1200FSC flail but the dealer highly recommends paying a bit more up front for the Rineri for a much stronger and durable mower.

Super subjective here... but I'll mention anyways I've driven both the manual and HST and I think I'll be ok with the manual. First tractor so I won't have the long-term experience on the HST to regret it, plus they are much more expensive so I'd rather have the money spent on implements. I think most of my loader work would be for spreading compost/chips so I think I can live with that, rest of work will be working the fields so pop it in gear and let it roll.

Thoughts? Am I on the right track? How do the prices look? Had another dealer quote me out similar gear and came in much higher with delivery/build fees.

Thanks again for an awesome site and great info!!

Tractor - high
Loader - about average
Backhoe - definitely high
Assembly - now they're just taking you for extra money
RTR1250 - high

Didn't check the Rineri. Go to Kubotausa.com go to the B series B2320 and select build your tractor. You should normally see around a 15% - 17% discount off of list prices from a dealer.

 

[majorwager]

Why would tractor prices vary a great deal by region? That makes no sense at all? What is the foundation for that reasoning? The interstate commerce laws require all dealers pay exactly the same price for individual tractors. Variances in transportation costs exist, but it is not accountable for significant price swings. Would like to see specific cases for these cost shifts. Sales tax is a cost but not a tractor itself cost. If a buyer knows what the tractor is worth, as rngrr.. demonstrated in his purchase, you will not overpay.

Some new members may be reluctant to disclose location initially, Everyone retains a right of privacy.

rngrry...is a very competent source for pricing, facts in lieu of conjecture and posturing.

Would you consider other brands? If you live in the vicinity of a RK store, look at their website for very candid and discounted pricing for tractors and implements. A competitive tool.


EDIT;
Within the same region there is price fluctuation, ignore list prices and learn the discounts disclosed by savvy buyers.
Patience can be key in selecting the best value.

Woodmaxx has a good reputation. You may wish to look at Woodland Mills as well.

 

[elia57]

Thanks for the tip guys on location. Just updated. Although I totally agree that price shouldn't be effected by location, dealers probably have varying overhead costs... And likely higher out by me.

I hadn't heard of the RK brand, they definitely seen nice but they totally skip the C states so that's not an option for me. Nearby, the only options I really have are Kubota, Deere and Mahindra. Really leaning towards the 2320 do just need to figure out the team prove of this tractor and implements and negotiate to it.

Woodland Mills looks nice too, hadn't seen another smaller chipper with hydrologic feed, cool!!

Any other tips or pricing you guys have for NorCal would be appreciated. Especially he to get the dealer to a reasonable price!

 

[3Lfarms]

Dave’s tractor in Red Bluff is a member here and highly regarded.

 

[jeff9366]

Great site, been doing a lot of research and I'm now on my way to pulling the trigger on a B2320 with implements.

I'm on 5 acres of field, looking to put in a small vineyard, orchard and food plots. I'm trying to get the most HP for the chipper and mower while maintaining a narrow width for mobility.

I've driven both the manual and HST and I think I'll be ok with the manual. First tractor so I won't have the long-term experience on the HST to regret it, plus they are much more expensive so I'd rather have the money spent on implements. I think most of my loader work would be for spreading compost/chips so I think I can live with that, rest of work will be working the fields so pop it in gear and let it roll.

Clutch rebuilds at my Florida Kubota dealer are $1,200. Likely $1,400 in Sonoma. A clutch and gear tractor pretty much precludes operation by another family member or an employee ~~~~~ or you will be paying for a $1,200 clutch rebuild.

The lowest compact tractor resales are for clutch and gear equipment.

Some gear tractors will not travel slow enough for optimum tiller work. Check on this with the dealer.

Last production on the B2320 was 2015. Are you OK with this?

The best way to reduce your acquisition cost is to delete the Backhoe. What specific tasks do you foresee for a VERY PRICEY $7,800 Backhoe? We can probably offer appealing Three Point Hitch alternatives. Try us.

The dealer is charging for the Backhoe as an aftermarket addition. Backhoes are MUCH cheaper included with a new tractor ordered directly from Kubota as an inclusive Tractor-Loader-Backhoe package.

 

[jeff9366]

Were I installing vines, fruit trees and irrigation on five acres in Sonoma County I would use a tractor Three Point Hitch mounted "Middlebuster" and a trenching shovel.

VIDEO: middle buster plow uses - YouTube


Mounted on light tractors it can be difficult to lift a full size Middlebuster high enough to move the tractor.
Discuss with your tractor dealer if you need a Middlebuster with a reduced size frame for a B2320. Or, inquire here via new thread.

LINKS: Dirt Dog Manufacturing >> Disc Harrows Tillage - Compact Lay Off Plow

SMALL FRAME TRACTOR MIDDLEBUSTER - Google Search

 

[majorwager]

Jeffy was CEO of one of the largest vineyards on the Coast but disagree that a clutch tractor is a pending disaster. HST transmissions were not readily popular till the mid 90's. How long have tractors been in production? And yes they were gear tractors !!! If Some folks ride the clutch, that is operational ignorance, and can be corrected.
It is true gear tractors offer lower resale value. A BH is an expensive option. Make an arrangement w/ a dealer to rent a mini excavator, consolidate your tasks, and you will be surprised how much work can be accomplished in a weekend. A BH on small tractors offer limited production. 3 point mount BH is a poor idea for small tractors. Subframe is a must.

Tiller speeds are relative to depth. Simply make additional passes, increasing the depth as necessary.

Don't be afraid to look at mahindra. Take a look at mahindra forum . I will post a screenshot of an excellent new owner's journal that I hope you find quite resourceful under owning-operating. Many smaller mahindra's are either Japanese or Korean produced and re-badged. This journal is now on Page 2 of the forum, many posts on the thread.

 

[elia57]

This is all really good info!! I've actually been looking at the middle busters, they definitely seem to ba a very useful tool.

I guess I'm open to other makes but, my biggest concern is width as I already have some narrow places to mow and also want to keep my rows as narrow as possible, maybe even 5' if I can. All other makes that I have looked at really would push to 6' unless if I went to a sub compact but that's not something I want to do.

Regarding price, I actually checked out another dealer about 60 miles away, prove was even higher for a tractor with a faded loader (old stock)! Guess I need to try another few dealers and see if anyone is up to seeing at a more reasonable price. Any tips on getting the price down? What's the scoop with Oregon purchases and taxes, I read a few threads and wasn't clear if dealers we're sharing their records to CA tax department. Also, how does warranty work if a tractor is purchased from a farther dealer? Dealers are telling me your stuck going back to selling dealer, is this really true?

 

[jeff9366]

I guess I'm open to other makes but, my biggest concern is width as I already have some narrow places to mow and also want to keep my rows as narrow as possible, maybe even 5' if I can. All other makes that I have looked at really would push to 6' unless if I went to a sub compact but that's not something I want to do.

Consider two-wheeled tractors and attachments. There is a dedicated T-B-N forum for two-wheeled tractors.

Subcompact tractors have 7" to 9" ground clearance, probably insufficient for your needs.

There is no substitute for tractor WEIGHT. This is lost on many tractor buyers.

Regarding price, I actually checked out another dealer about 60 miles away, prove was even higher for a tractor with a faded loader (old stock)! Guess I need to try another few dealers and see if anyone is up to seeing at a more reasonable price. Any tips on getting the price down?

Tractor volumes are low relative to car volumes but price negotiation is the same. Start with Kubota's web site and its BUILD MY KUBOTA subsection to determine solid MSRP for tractor with precisely the options you want.

At my Kubota dealer your potential tractor/implement order would win a considerable discount from MSRP, possibly 10%. No $600 assembly fee. On request, fresh, new equipment would be brought in, although there might be a wait.
Some price incentives are provided by the manufactures to dealers.

Shop Kioti and LS tractor brands from Korea.

What's the scoop with Oregon purchases and taxes, I read a few threads and wasn't clear if dealers we're sharing their records to CA tax department.

Buying out-of-state does not exempt you from California sales tax obligation. The weigh stations a truck passes through can check invoices.

Instead, check California sales tax exemptions for ag equipment applications.
In Florida, tractors and implements used in ag and forestry applications are sales tax exempt. In Florida, very simple to obtain sales exemption. Minimal paperwork executed at the dealer.

Also, how does warranty work if a tractor is purchased from a distant dealer? Dealers are telling me your stuck going back to selling dealer, is this really true?

It is a battle for dealers to obtain reimbursement from tractor manufactures for warranty repairs. How much dealers are reimbursed varies, but often less than 100%. Sometimes much less.
"Operator error" is not covered by tractor warranties and therein lie disputes; buyer-dealer/dealer-manufacturer.

So SOME dealers will not service tractors under warranty unless purchase was made from the servicing dealer. Others consider how straight forward warranty repair seems to be, then decide. I am sympathetic with the dealers on this issue.

My local Kubota dealer says his net profit on stand-alone compact tractor sales is $600 to $1,000 per sale. At least some cushion for warranty work.

If you buy Kubota, buy KTAC insurance. KTAC is easy for you to deal with and easy for the dealer to deal with.
LINK: KTAC Insurance Agency - Default