Glyphosate - related to bee decline

[hawkeye08]

One of the local farmers lives by chemicals. He had one of the weediest fields of lentils I have ever seen. He seldom works the ground, mostly just sprays and plants. before he could harvest his lentils, he had to spray with roundup to kill the weeds.

Government encourages no till as it reduces erosion, but at what cost? We used very little sprays when I was growing up on the farm. We worked hard to keep weeds from going to seed and rotated crops depending on soil needs.

I don't believe most of the "studies" anymore because they are paid for by parties that are interested in certain outcomes.

 

[Steppenwolfe]

This is a research report that studied bee decline. Quick summary: glyphosate seems to reduce the gut bacteria that bees need to stay healthy.
Bee death: Scientists Warn Common Weed Killer Glyphosate Is Killing Honey Bees

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"While bees with healthy microbiomes could fight off Serratia marcescens, a common pathogen which infects bees, those with depleted good bacteria were at greater risk of dying when they came in contact, the researchers found. Half of the healthy bees survived after exposure to the pathogen, compared with a tenth of bees given glyphosate. "


Related article - measurable amounts of glyphosate found in Cheerios and Quaker Oats products. Whether this is harmful is disputed.
What Is Glyphosate? Weed Killing Chemical Found In Children痴 Breakfast Foods

I was working on a farm in 1975 when Glyphosphate was being researched and developed. The owner of the farm was an agricultural extension agent for Rutgers University. He told me then to NEVER spray near any waterways or food crops; it was only for around the barn, etc.

 

[Industrial Toys]

Any form of agriculture is going against nature.

My one farmer poisons everything in sight with his roundup.

On the other half of the farm, the Organic farmer is going at break neck speed with his haybine mowing down young deer, geese and turkeys.

I feel like telling them both to hit the road!

 

[/pine]

I agree, lack of GMO products would greatly decrease the supply of food Worldwide. Every living thing has been genetically modified by mother nature or it is no longer in existence. Scientist simply speed things up. If plants (and animals including humans) didn't change to meet the environment, then they become extinct which has been happening for millions of years. We cant change nature and save all the species that are declining.

This is why I think they've got the whole **** thing all wrong...instead of playing god and modifying the genetics of food producing crops they should be working on the weeds that are the target of the chemicals...seems like if they could stop the weeds from reproducing they would not need any herbicides...same goes for harmful insects...!

 

[California]

...same goes for harmful insects...!

Here's an article on that, an experimental genetic modification to wipe out malaria mosquitoes.

Scientists Wiped Out a Mosquito Population by Hacking Their DNA With CRISPR

 

[Jstpssng]

^^^^
As much as I hate the little buggers they do serve a purpose. I'm not sure that a complete eradication would be wise.

 

[kenmac]

And with them, what are we doing to our health and medical costs?

Trust me, When you eat anything that comes from the grocery store, you are most likely getting far worst than the Glyphosate.

You have no idea what chemicals these other countries give cattle, chickens, spray fruit, vegetables,etc, with .
But then, we have the government (USDA) to make sure we are taken care of

The power company spray their ROW's the county sprays their ROW's. I spray my fence lines. I don't spray any clover in the pasture that the bees use.

I have had bee keepers tell me that having professional lawn services spray people's lawn for clover and weeds are killing the bees

 

[Industrial Toys]

Why can't they cross Bees with Cockroaches?

Hey, if they can grow a human ear on a mouse.

 

[Steppenwolfe]

Lots of maybe scientific research on GMO's and chemicals.
I consider roundup to be one of the milder herbicides available for use, supposedly it breaks down in seven days after application.

For all those that complain of chemical and GMO's, stop and consider what food costs and food productivity would be today without the
huge advances in yields in the 70 years.

We may not like chemicals but I'm also not a fan of "organic" the production and yield is much less per acre and the cost of production is much higher.
And many times the quality of the product decreases.

Without chemicals you could and would easily triple your food bill, it would also be great for the small farm and hurt so many of the large agri-business farms.
That in my mind is the only benefit of restricting chemicals and research.

Also GMO is really just an accelerated hybrid crop.

You all have a good day

Breaks down to what ??? That may be the problem.

 

[PILOON]

Trust me, When you eat anything that comes from the grocery store, you are most likely getting far worst than the Glyphosate.

You have no idea what chemicals these other countries give cattle, chickens, spray fruit, vegetables,etc, with .
But then, we have the government (USDA) to make sure we are taken care of

The power company spray their ROW's the county sprays their ROW's. I spray my fence lines. I don't spray any clover in the pasture that the bees use.

I have had bee keepers tell me that having professional lawn services spray people's lawn for clover and weeds are killing the bees

Tomato's used to be nice to eat, today they have tough skins, actual roots inside, and taste like s---t.

Do you remember a tomato called 'beefeater'? now that was a tomato!