Spoofed Numbers

[k0ua]

please explain to me how to spoof a phone number ? Then, send me your number:laughing:

It is pretty easy to do. If you have a PRI or an IP SIP trunk line service into your PBX, the origination of the caller ID information comes out of your PBX and is sent to the phone company over the D channel. As a programmer of your own PBX you are in control of the sent number. So you can make that number anything you want it to be. I used to have control of a small PBX at my desk a Nortel BCM50 as a test bed system. It was served by a PRI trunk line. I often used a set on this system remotely controlled by my cell phone. I could appear to be at my desk when I was out and about mobile. Very handy. The point is ANY number can be set up as the calling number on the caller-id on the receiving end.

So long story short, when you see a caller-id, it has no real meaning. It could just as easily originate from a location in China or Pakistan as some nearby neighbor.

We could pass laws making it a federal crime to pass a caller-id number you do not actually assigned to your for your geographic location by the local phone company, BUT that still would not stop "bad actors" in foreign countries from doing what they want to do. So caller-id has lost its "power" for you as a consumer to base its info as a tool to decide if you want to answer the phone or not.

If you want to understand telemarketing, just follow the money. If telemarketers did not turn a profit from making telemarketing calls, they would not make them. If all people would vow to never ever buy ANYTHING from a telemarketer, even it it is something they want, then all telemarketers would go out of business in about a week. Same for drugs, if people would not use drugs, all drug pushers would go out of business, and all of the crime associated with drugs would simply vanish. But people like to use drugs, and people LIKE to buy things from telemarketers. It is what it is. You cannot keep people from doing the things they want to do.

 

[dmccarty]

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If you want to understand telemarketing, just follow the money. If telemarketers did not turn a profit from making telemarketing calls, they would not make them. If all people would vow to never ever buy ANYTHING from a telemarketer, even it it is something they want, then all telemarketers would go out of business in about a week. Same for drugs, if people would not use drugs, all drug pushers would go out of business, and all of the crime associated with drugs would simply vanish. But people like to use drugs, and people LIKE to buy things from telemarketers. It is what it is. You cannot keep people from doing the things they want to do.

Yep. But.

A couple of decades prior to this century, I was working for a company in South FLA. We expanded, hired more people and rented more space in the building we were located. This space had been a telemarketers call room. The had left behind some trashy, broken chairs and desks for us to throw out. However, there was some treasure in one of the drawers in a broken desk! :shocked:

It was The Script! :laughing::laughing::laughing:

They had left behind a laminated script, front and back, so two pages of how to manipulate the person answering the phone. The scam was to call and tell the person who answered that they had won a Major Award. The Major Award was a pen! They would talk up the nice the Major Award, aka, how great the cheap pen was, and con them into paying to engrave a name or saying on the pen. The script was very, very good. If the person who answered said A, they had a response to A.

Given this was in South FLA, which had, and has, a huge population of senior's, some of whom are lonely and/or not mentally whole, it can be easy picking for scammers.

I generally get two scam calls a day, DURING the week, on my cell phone. One around 10:00 and the other around 2:00. Always a spoofed number. Lately from NJ. It is health care scam.

My work phone gets a call from time to time about me winning a cruise. That one is really annoying because they have a LOUD ship horn when you pick up the phone. Tis actually a bit painful.

The house land line does not seem to get scam calls for some reason. :confused3:

I did get some calls for awhile about my student loans. :shocked: Never had student loans and I have been out of school for a wee bit of time. :laughing::laughing::laughing:

None of these calls have a person on the line.

Later,
Dan

 

[k0ua]

But the point is these scams work. Yes people have the pen engraved, yes they ask for help with their student loans, Yes they send money. If the scams didn't work they would stop doing them post haste.

Moral of the story, if you want to make some money, become a telemarketer! It pays! Sure you have to have a thick skin and a black heart (or none at all), but if you can stand the heat, you WILL make money.

 

[k0ua]

Just like selling drugs on a street corner, YOU WILL GET RICH. At least for a while. Sure there are downsides, gang turf wars, the risk of getting shot every day, police hassling you and prison, BUT IT IS WORTH IT for many tough people. People WANT drugs, and they will buy them from drug dealers. We pass laws ensuring that the demand is there every day. If illicit drugs were available and cheap at the corner drug store and freely sold to everyone over 18 in any quantity they want, do you think there would be any corner street drug dealers? NO. They would go out of business in less than a week.

They would of course hit and try to kill the folks in the corner drug store, and try to burn it down, but if the police would just hang out at the corner dispensary of heroin, oxy, cocaine, meth, and MJ their job would be a LOT easier, and there would be a lot less bullets flying around in the "hoods" for innocent people to catch. In fact the dispensary could be government run and government protected with a heavily armed presence. This would prevent the gangs from destroying it.

At what cost to society you say? What cost now with our present criminal run dispensary?

 

[Fuddy1952]

Here's what I believe, I can't prove it, but I'm sure of it.
Telemarketers have a hot list. People who order from them. They use that list and probably sell that list to other telemarketers.
They also conversely have a black list, or do not call list.
The national do not call list doesn't help.
Believe me...if you do not want telemarketer calls don't cuss them out! Act interested...engage them...get your foot in the door. THEN lower the boom, fake credit card number, act nuts, explain how you love their calls, you're lonely. It's he## to go through at first, but it pays off.
We do not get them! Sometimes the phone will ring one time...then they think "it's that wacko sob"!
If you don't want them...try it!