Home security gadgets on Hughesnet, who has any?

   / Home security gadgets on Hughesnet, who has any? #21  
I *never* let applications auto-update themselves. Never. And I don't let the updates silently download in the background so it is ready if I want to update. If your system does that I would suggest you change it.

You obviously don't run Win10. Unlike previous versions of Windows, they no longer let you dictate the downloading of the updates nor do they tell you when they are doing it. They do let you dictate the "installation" time (minimal data usage but can make the computer unusable for a long time) but the "package" (can be huge) has already been downloaded. There was a way to prevent any updates through the "services" window but seems that trick no longer works. I disconnect my machine from the internet when I'm not using it.
 
   / Home security gadgets on Hughesnet, who has any? #22  
You obviously don't run Win10. I disconnect my machine from the internet when I'm not using it.

I still run Windows 7 on most of my machines. I purposely lag on technology ... for the obvious reasons. Windows 10 got a lot of bad press from freedom advocates over what you reported, and more. (I thought there were workarounds published?)

For the longest time I could not find what was launching and running applications when I left a machine idle overnight. I finally did as you do-- remove its connection to the internet.

Later I found the answer-- small insects hitting my HP touchscreen were randomly launching things. I disconnected the touch screen and problem solved.
 
   / Home security gadgets on Hughesnet, who has any? #23  
You obviously don't run Win10. Unlike previous versions of Windows, they no longer let you dictate the downloading of the updates nor do they tell you when they are doing it. They do let you dictate the "installation" time (minimal data usage but can make the computer unusable for a long time) but the "package" (can be huge) has already been downloaded. There was a way to prevent any updates through the "services" window but seems that trick no longer works. I disconnect my machine from the internet when I'm not using it.

^ This.
I also used to "disable" the automatic updates on both of my computers but now I see that somehow Microsoft has disabled the "disable" feature. And every time that a new update gets automatically downloaded and installed, a new problem appears on one or both computers. Last week the touchpad on my laptop quit working after an update - the driver was still current but for some reason the update turned off the touchpad and I had to re-enable it. Luckily an external mouse still worked so I could get this accomplished.

I'm seriously thinking of taking both computers in to an excellent tech I know to have Windows 7 installed on both, and all the crapware removed. Anyone tried Linux? Wondering how it compares?
 
   / Home security gadgets on Hughesnet, who has any? #24  
Anyone tried Linux? Wondering how it compares?

I tried to switch from Windows to Linux but it was a bridge-too-far. IMO suited for propeller heads only. However I might change my mind if Micro$oft starts charging for Windows 10 which they call a "service" hint, hint.
 
   / Home security gadgets on Hughesnet, who has any? #25  
Microsoft has disabled the "disable" feature.

That is just unacceptable. I always purposely lag with technology, and rumors about that ensured I would not upgrade to Win 10.

Might be some work, but maybe you can configure Windows 10 to run in a hard drive volume that barely has enough space to run? That way the auto-download would fail from running out of disk space. And if I were you I would sever the internet connection when you are not using the PC (unless you have other things running.)

Hmm- I wonder if you can make microsoft.com a non-trusted site in your security settings. :D
 
   / Home security gadgets on Hughesnet, who has any? #26  
^ This.
I also used to "disable" the automatic updates on both of my computers but now I see that somehow Microsoft has disabled the "disable" feature. And every time that a new update gets automatically downloaded and installed, a new problem appears on one or both computers. Last week the touchpad on my laptop quit working after an update - the driver was still current but for some reason the update turned off the touchpad and I had to re-enable it. Luckily an external mouse still worked so I could get this accomplished.

I'm seriously thinking of taking both computers in to an excellent tech I know to have Windows 7 installed on both, and all the crapware removed. Anyone tried Linux? Wondering how it compares?

You can control the "install" but not the "download" (2 separate steps...the former might require you to stare at a monitor for awhile, the latter runs in the background with no warning other than you might think your computer is running slow). It's the download that eats your data allowance.
 
   / Home security gadgets on Hughesnet, who has any? #27  
I *never* let applications auto-update themselves. Never. And I don't let the updates silently download in the background so it is ready if I want to update.

+1
There is a feature in Windows 10 that is supposed to prevent Windows from automatically updating. You have to have a WiFi connection and identify it as a metered connection. Then you have to manually download stuff (and sometimes I've had to turn metered to off for a download).

In Windows 10 Home -> Windows Settings -> Network & Internet -> Status -> Change Connection Properties -- then change the metered button (the network you are on has to be WiFi, I've not been able to get it to turn on in any other mode)
 
   / Home security gadgets on Hughesnet, who has any? #28  
There's a bunch of tutorials out there that show you how to edit the registry to disable auto-downloading of updates in windows 10. If you're not comfortable editing the registry, purchase a USB WIFI adapter, plug it into a USB port, and unplug your hard-wired ethernet connection so your machine now connects over WIFI, then follow those instructions to set it up for a metered network connection and that'll solve that.
 
   / Home security gadgets on Hughesnet, who has any?
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thanks for all the help advice. I may have some computer help lined up thats parents a school friend of son. Its gotten much more strange and complicated since my first post. on Sat the 20th wife calls me while at station and dog is tethered on cable on tree, I didnt do it. Its my cable for occasional use but Who? Why? I left at 0500 and he was munching on dog biscuit, she lets him go, off cable and leaves house, calls me way down road when has signal and we theorize putting mildly. Hours later she comes back no dog, she checks yard and cable a couple times before bed nothing. Next morning goes out, no dog checks cable, his empty collar is on cable, no dog. Wife swears collar not there sat afternoon when she checks. No video either as tree is behind camera that looks at part of driveway and ac unit. I get home from jobs at about 1400 on sunday and go check the game cameras I put up in march( only remember them when I am away at work) and thought all had dead batteries. The 2 in back dead, the one aimed front door that the guy came to on 17th still operational. I have set to video but its not great quality. I have what appears to be 2 different people coming to door 3 of those times our dog has disappeared. Wife was here on 17th didnt answer door and thats one of guys. The only time I dont have anyone on camera coming to door was labor day monday 3rd and dog was gone 5 days and came back. apparently someone f��ound our dog and called the vet on the 6th using his rabies tag info but I never got the message and dog showed up on the 8th anyway...I just checked my landline messages today and found the message among the 90 telemarketers and beggars. Or dog still gone last saw him on our crappy video on the 20th about 3 pm, no game camera. the person that came up on the 17th and freaked wife out was parked in a drive that leads to a some leased hunting land across street. He looks like the same person that came to door on the 13th and our dog was gone a day and half and came back limping. Like jumped out moving vehicle. Dog also disappeared on the on sept 23, that time he came back and rabies tag was gone off collar but still collar. Nobody said “you got him back” when I got a replacemnt tag at vet or mentioned they knew was lost because. Dog also disappeared for a day on the Oct 13 whike we were having sons 5th birthday and family stuff at wife sister house and not home. All of these are weekend days, all but labor day I have someone in my yard on camera including the 20th but no actual video of anybody actually taking dog but what an incredible coincidence then. I went to the vet personally to find out about who called and they didnt keep the info after the woman said they “notified” me, I said I never got any info, just got the one voice mail today month half later. She said not their policy to keep information or get involved.... I So if the person that found my dog first time was 25 or 100 mile away, be a good place to start looking again. My guess its guys from hunting camp across street nabbing him, he has escaped and made it back. We had a vet appointment for dog the 18th and I have never heard him whine or wimper so much in the car. I had to tie him down to keep him in so I could shut door because van door slides so slow. Maybe taken him to make a hunting dog, he is blue tick beagle hound mix something, and hes escaped and found way home or he is bothering them and sniffing around over there and they are taking him away dumping him. If my dog is a problem why wouldnt they write a note, Ive been working with dog trying to keep him in yard full time but he is very curious and doesnt understand that the road and the interesting things across street are not his... Everyone is sick over all this for many reasons.
 
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   / Home security gadgets on Hughesnet, who has any? #30  
+1
There is a feature in Windows 10 that is supposed to prevent Windows from automatically updating. You have to have a WiFi connection and identify it as a metered connection. Then you have to manually download stuff (and sometimes I've had to turn metered to off for a download).

In Windows 10 Home -> Windows Settings -> Network & Internet -> Status -> Change Connection Properties -- then change the metered button (the network you are on has to be WiFi, I've not been able to get it to turn on in any other mode)

That will only let you control the installation time. It doesn't control the stealth download of the package which is the data eater. There was a very lengthy message board that spanned about 2 years before Windows closed it for further comments. There was no solution (i.e. Microsoft doesn't care). There was a way to force the updates to "manual" (Windows->services->windows update-> then change the "startup type" to "disabled"). It used to work but I think a recent update made it non-operational or resets it to automatic with every reboot. When it did work I would wait for the end of the billing cycle to see if I had any remaining data allowance, then force an update (undo the above steps then go to windows updates).
 

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