Feeling ripped off.....fill dirt

   / Feeling ripped off.....fill dirt
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#11  
This is sold by cu yd - at least advertised that way. $200/load delivered for 13 cu yds. $95 for the dirt, $105 for the delivery. And they're the less expensive option locally :(

Kind of tempted to try the guys advertising on clist that are about $125 delivered for a tandem load, but since using as a berm don't want big rocks, chunks of concrete, etc. Plus I really like limiting the # of "strangers" I bring on to my remote property. Not a far leap for someone making a delivery to look around and see tractor, generator & tools out, etc and assume that stuff lives out there (which it does). No neighbors, so you could spend all night cutting locks and loading up "stuff".

I have used this company several times and buying gravel or crushed concrete from them, get a weight ticket with my receipt. For dirt, just a receipt & no weight ticket. I like these guys' dirt because it is screened and generally nothing ever bigger than a piece of lemon sized rock. However, when I buy from the competing company, it costs more, isn't screened (not full of crap though), but always have more material and the piles when dumped are visually larger - but hard to tell by looking esp since the trucks are different size. But say 10 yds from A compared to a pile of 15 yds from B, B's pile looks like a lot more than 150% of A's....if that makes sense. What I should have done is what I did last time and asked company B to match company A's delivered price per yard. They've done it before, but kind of a hassle getting them to agree.

Not the end of the world, just disappointed that I *thought* 2 tandem loads would be 'perfect' amount leaving some left over. For my others built this way, I pile it, compact/shape it best I can with bucket (and a construction backhoe does that 10x better than a tractor), then just wait for it to settle and some grass to grow, then I can add more to get it topped back off and get the top thicker since the base isn't as loose. Will just have to get another load when time comes to do that, but look at it like I'm spending an additional $200 for material I already paid for.

Will see what happens.....I built this extension a LOT lighter than the others so no idea if it will even stand after stuff starts to settle. Might be doing the whole thing over in the spring. Tried a different way to save on the insane lumber cost of 4x4 construction I did the others.

On a positive note, I really appreciated how smoothly my loader operates. Raise & uncurl together a little tricky at times getting that joystick sweet spot, but nice to not have a lot of 'jerkyness' taking full loads of loose material to full height. NX HST very pleasant overall for lots of loader work like that. Moving the 2 loads - however many cu yds that ended up actually being - went a lot quicker than I thought it would. I spilled very little overall, and dumped very little back on the hood at full height.
 
   / Feeling ripped off.....fill dirt
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#12  
You got just a little less than ten yards on the truck in the picture.

That's kind of what I'm thinking.....around 20 yds vs 26 yds is what it 'seems like' I had to work with. The grayed out portion of my cross section sketch shows the material I should have had left over. Mostly anyway, +/- a yard.

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   / Feeling ripped off.....fill dirt #13  
That looks like what I got recently, delivered about 5 miles away, $200/tandem load, not screened red clay. S. Central Va. 5 loads, $1K. It always takes way more dirt than you think it will. Then with rains I probably lost $300 worth!
 
   / Feeling ripped off.....fill dirt
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#14  
Got me thinking and went back thru old pictures on my phone. This is 2 13 yd piles from company A followed by an 18 yd load from company B. What should be 26 yds compared to what should be 18 yds...look about the same. So either company A is delivering a lot less than advertised or company B is very generous making company A look bad. Not sure which, but am thinking company A has just been ripping me off....

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   / Feeling ripped off.....fill dirt #15  
Looking at the first photo in your original post,if they are advertising as 13 cubic yards you are NOT getting ripped off.
 
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   / Feeling ripped off.....fill dirt #17  
Looking at the first photo in your original post,if they are advertising as 13 cubic yards you are NOT getting ripped off.

I tend to agree, dirt has a variable weight called moisture. So if its reallly dry, you can load more. If its really wet, you load less. And if you are not scaling the trucks, you average it out and go by number of scoops or a visual.
 
   / Feeling ripped off.....fill dirt #18  
I always felt ripped off too. It was a stingy neighbor that got me on to the practice of climbing up and seeing what the box had in it before it was dumped. That also lets them know, they aren't dealing with just another sucker. Or fleecing another city-slicker! lol

There was always an excuse for a pidly load. Maybe it helps their profit, maybe they get a kickback or maybe they just count on you getting more loads and them getting more money.

Reminds me of the butcher, years ago when I asked why he left so much fat on the outside of a T-Bone. He just smiled, and said, profit. I guess, every business has their angle.

Fortunately, I have some connections now and request (and get) good loads!
 
   / Feeling ripped off.....fill dirt #19  
I have a guy local that mixes sand and clay for a better quality fill. It IS mixed before loading, not half and half. He sells it delivered for $10 yd. $180 per truck load. The top of his 18 yd truck will be heaped so you don't have to climb anything to see what you are getting. I'm sure he has a distance limit but he is close enough to me that I pay no extra delivery.
 
   / Feeling ripped off.....fill dirt #20  
A few thoughts...

You could watch them load truck before delivering to you.

You could simply call them, say that you ordered and paid for 26 cu. yds. dirt and thought you didn't receive that much. See what they say.

I was in the service business for many years. Customers had lots of questions. I said everything boils down to one thing...TRUST.
Anyone I use, contractors, plumbers, HVAC, carpenters, dirt/stone delivery, the list goes on...I trust. If you don't, then go elsewhere.
 

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