front bucket dropping overnight

DieselBound · Dec 1, 2018

ONLY? OK, what happens if the tractor were turned upside down? :confused2:

MtnViewRanch · Dec 1, 2018

LD1 said:
Still won't make a difference

Sad, but you are correct.

But we can at least try.

ptimist:

JimR · Dec 2, 2018

I read some of this thread and "WOW" is all I can say. I'll add my .02 cents worth. I've never seen a bucket that didn't leak down. They can leak down at the piston by leaking internally by the piston seal or at the loader valve "o" rings.

4570Man · Dec 2, 2018

DieselBound said:
ONLY? OK, what happens if the tractor were turned upside down? :confused2:

Then it would actually be possible to leak down without a bad valve because the rod is extending. But I wouldn’t recommend doing that because then all the oil of going to run out of the tank and the fuel will spill.

JimR · Dec 2, 2018

4570Man said:
Then it would actually be possible to leak down without a bad valve because the rod is extending. But I wouldn’t recommend doing that because then all the oil of going to run out of the tank and the fuel will spill.

Isn't the fuel cap vent on a Kioti an "open on suck design?" The reason I say this is that I pulled the fuel line off on my tractor and very little fuel came out. I loosened the cap and all **** broke loose. I was checking for a fuel restriction per my local dealer's request a few months back when I had limp mode issues for the first time. He thought it was fuel related.

DieselBound · Dec 2, 2018

JimR said:
Isn't the fuel cap vent on a Kioti an "open on suck design?" The reason I say this is that I pulled the fuel line off on my tractor and very little fuel came out. I loosened the cap and all **** broke loose. I was checking for a fuel restriction per my local dealer's request a few months back when I had limp mode issues for the first time. He thought it was fuel related.

I think Kioti's fuel caps might not be all that great*. I had the dealer give me a new locking cap. The original one sucked, and it might have actually allowed water into the tank: I was regularly getting water in my fuel, fueling from the same source, and no other piece of equipment was trapping water.

* My Kubota B7800's fuel cap was also crap: it would strip and then be loose such that a full tank and hitting big bumps would cause fuel to spout out. Kubota redesigned it (I had to pay for that one).

Look! Squirrel!

Threepoint · Dec 2, 2018

4570Man said:
Then it would actually be possible to leak down without a bad valve because the rod is extending. [snip]

Excellent point about turning the tractor upside down. But that would be ok, because any of the other cylinders that were previously extending would now be retracting and stop drifting. Right? So if there happen to be more of those, then it would be a net win! :dance1:

Hey Diesel, what squirrel?

JimR · Dec 2, 2018

DieselBound said:
I think Kioti's fuel caps might not be all that great*. I had the dealer give me a new locking cap. The original one sucked, and it might have actually allowed water into the tank: I was regularly getting water in my fuel, fueling from the same source, and no other piece of equipment was trapping water.

* My Kubota B7800's fuel cap was also crap: it would strip and then be loose such that a full tank and hitting big bumps would cause fuel to spout out. Kubota redesigned it (I had to pay for that one).

Look! Squirrel!

I don't get any water in mine and it is outside almost all of the time. I did however lose my first cap while brush hogging my woodlot roads. I think a small tree unscrewed it.

DieselBound · Dec 2, 2018

Threepoint said:
Excellent point about turning the tractor upside down. But that would be ok, because any of the other cylinders that were previously extending would now be retracting and stop drifting. Right? So if there happen to be more of those, then it would be a net win! :dance1:

Hey Diesel, what squirrel?

I go to great lengths (often missed by others, but it entertains me

) to caution about the use of the word "never."

JimR said:
I don't get any water in mine and it is outside almost all of the time. I did however lose my first cap while brush hogging my woodlot roads. I think a small tree unscrewed it.

It was the oddest issue for me. I am not sure the dealer had any problem in mind other than I'd mentioned that the original cap (locking) was cheesy (and it most certainly was). After changing the cap I've had no water issues. It's possible, though I'm not sure if it's all that probable (given the amount of fuel I'd run through this tractor up to that point), that there was water in the tank when I got the tractor. I drained my storage tank and found zero traces of water. I drained my Polaris (diesel) and found no traces of water. I drained my generator (diesel) and found no traces of water. My B7800 has a clear fuel bowl on it and there has never been any signs of water in it. Kioti lives outside and we get a LOT of rain here (well over 60" per year).