Planning on dropping Health Insurance. Change my mind.

   / Planning on dropping Health Insurance. Change my mind. #322  
For you younger ones out there Prevention may be the best healthcare solution in your future. Everyone today can look at countries with socialized medicine and see services being rationed and people are lining up at their borders to get in like today in Europe to get free healthcare, etc.

Here in Norway there are private hospitals and yes many has insurance but that's often because the employer wants priority and minimum sick time. You can give everyone priority all the time, and I don't see that "unproductive" people get lesser treatment, it has been a discussion if such priority should be done but it does challenge the idea of the equal value of people.

And there are always a question on when to call it the end, death is natural and today most people don't have any natural understanding of it. Is it ethical to keep very old and very sick individuals alive just because relatives want to not related to the natural end of life? A society doesn't have unlimited resources, when to stop threatment or say no to ultra expensive medicines will always be a part of healthcare nobody likes to hear about.
 
   / Planning on dropping Health Insurance. Change my mind. #323  
^^^^^
I believe that this was mentioned earlier in this thread but many of us have what's called a "Living Will", which states that we don't want to be kept alive using artificial means.
What is a Living Will? | AllLaw
 
   / Planning on dropping Health Insurance. Change my mind. #324  
   / Planning on dropping Health Insurance. Change my mind. #329  
You can give everyone priority all the time, and I don't see that "unproductive" people get lesser treatment, it has been a discussion if such priority should be done but it does challenge the idea of the equal value of people.
After watching my in-laws and some friends before and after knee/hip/shoulder replacements in their 50s, 60s and 70s, I would say that NOT getting the surgery done (or delaying it) because they are older would definitely be lesser treatment.
It was a night and day difference after they got the surgery in their mobility, pain level, mental state, etc.

Aaron Z
 
   / Planning on dropping Health Insurance. Change my mind. #330  
Some day all the free social programs will cause our standard of living and economy to collapse. Take the problem with socialism is that eventually we spend the wealth of the working man. Remember a few years back when they started building big apartment complexes to provide housing for the indigent and those on welfare. The tenants had no skin in the game. Soon they become roach, bed bug, rat, drug infested and had to be abandoned and nice buildings sit idle and had to be demolished. In our area the emergency squad has started billing for any emergency runs. So if you are self employed and get a injury, you are going to bet a bill, Yet they will make three or four runs a week to a crack house free. The Good Book (not political correct to mention Bible) tells us to take care of the sick and help the poor but it also says "he who does not work does not eat" We are breeding a whole generation of dysfunctional people that have been taught that someone else will take care of them. Many have never heard the story of the "little Red Hen" or about what the Good Book says about the ant. What is happening in France will come to America some day. I remember years ago when I was a kid and I was walking down a road, hungry, I seen a apple tree with its branches extending over the fence. I took a apple. Dad said "what makes you think you have a right to do that" Some farmer labored to plant the tree, fertilize it, prune it and care for it so it will provide a income and care for his family and you think you have a right to just walk by and pick off the apples. If you want a apple, go ask the farmer if there are some chores you can do to get a apple. I have never forgot that lesson.
 

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