Planning on dropping Health Insurance. Change my mind.

[Travelover]

......... I remember years ago when I was a kid and I was walking down a road, hungry, I seen a apple tree with its branches extending over the fence. I took a apple. Dad said "what makes you think you have a right to do that" Some farmer labored to plant the tree, fertilize it, prune it and care for it so it will provide a income and care for his family and you think you have a right to just walk by and pick off the apples. If you want a apple, go ask the farmer if there are some chores you can do to get a apple. I have never forgot that lesson.

I just want you to know that I have a bunch of apple trees and you are welcome to one any time you walk by. And your kids, too.

 

[two_bit_score]

Some day all the free social programs will cause our standard of living and economy to collapse. Take the problem with socialism is that eventually we spend the wealth of the working man. Remember a few years back when they started building big apartment complexes to provide housing for the indigent and those on welfare. The tenants had no skin in the game. Soon they become roach, bed bug, rat, drug infested and had to be abandoned and nice buildings sit idle and had to be demolished. In our area the emergency squad has started billing for any emergency runs. So if you are self employed and get a injury, you are going to bet a bill, Yet they will make three or four runs a week to a crack house free. The Good Book (not political correct to mention Bible) tells us to take care of the sick and help the poor but it also says "he who does not work does not eat" We are breeding a whole generation of dysfunctional people that have been taught that someone else will take care of them. Many have never heard the story of the "little Red Hen" or about what the Good Book says about the ant. What is happening in France will come to America some day. I remember years ago when I was a kid and I was walking down a road, hungry, I seen a apple tree with its branches extending over the fence. I took a apple. Dad said "what makes you think you have a right to do that" Some farmer labored to plant the tree, fertilize it, prune it and care for it so it will provide a income and care for his family and you think you have a right to just walk by and pick off the apples. If you want a apple, go ask the farmer if there are some chores you can do to get a apple. I have never forgot that lesson.

A great reminder and worth repeating!


TBS

 

[4570Man]

I just want you to know that I have a bunch of apple trees and you are welcome to one any time you walk by. And your kids, too.

Same here. Most of the apples feed the wildlife or get mowed over.

 

[Jstpssng]

Same here. Most of the apples feed the wildlife or get mowed over.

The main thing though is that they ask. I used to work in an orchard which had about 1/4 mile along the road. They just wrote off the apples from those trees as there were never any to pick. One day I caught a woman with her two kids in the orchard walking out with two big grocery bags of apples. I asked them to go pay for them and she agreed... then laughed at me as she drove off to her house a mile down the road.

 

[ultrarunner]

Some day all the free social programs will cause our standard of living and economy to collapse. Take the problem with socialism is that eventually we spend the wealth of the working man. Remember a few years back when they started building big apartment complexes to provide housing for the indigent and those on welfare. The tenants had no skin in the game. Soon they become roach, bed bug, rat, drug infested and had to be abandoned and nice buildings sit idle and had to be demolished. In our area the emergency squad has started billing for any emergency runs. So if you are self employed and get a injury, you are going to bet a bill, Yet they will make three or four runs a week to a crack house free. The Good Book (not political correct to mention Bible) tells us to take care of the sick and help the poor but it also says "he who does not work does not eat" We are breeding a whole generation of dysfunctional people that have been taught that someone else will take care of them. Many have never heard the story of the "little Red Hen" or about what the Good Book says about the ant. What is happening in France will come to America some day. I remember years ago when I was a kid and I was walking down a road, hungry, I seen a apple tree with its branches extending over the fence. I took a apple. Dad said "what makes you think you have a right to do that" Some farmer labored to plant the tree, fertilize it, prune it and care for it so it will provide a income and care for his family and you think you have a right to just walk by and pick off the apples. If you want a apple, go ask the farmer if there are some chores you can do to get a apple. I have never forgot that lesson.

A lot of truth in your words John... not trying to be jaded but I have seen what has happened with Public Housing where no one is accountable...

 

[Agvg]

If we still talks healthcare you can be very sure that politicians and management has to listen, people get very angry if they don't get value for the taxes they pay.

And if you don't deliver in healthcare, roads and infrastructure, care of the elderly, schools and so on you simply looses the election.

You pay high taxes and you will have very high expectations on getting value for the mony.

 

[Gale Hawkins]

Like most my age the public/private healthcare systems is a concern to me. Understanding there are going to be fewer and fewer healthcare resources for many of us I am daily giving thought as to how to reduce my care needs by addressing the way I eat, move and think. After 4 years of doing this my health and health markers at age 67 are better than 30 years ago.

To go without healthcare or not is on more minds than ever. I lost a good friend at the age of 65 yesterday to cancer. The too good to be true promises of a few years ago left him without good insurance when it could have been a factor to have helped him live longer.

Obituary | Gary C. Miller | Byrn Funeral Home

 

[ultrarunner]

One of my friends lost her husband of 50 years... she just sold the family home they built and moved to a retirement community... very sharp and gets around well at 87... two weeks into her new home Kaiser calls and says they discovered Breast Cancer... she had full medical as a retired career Kaiser employee.

She told me she is not doing Chemo, Radiation, etc... simply will not do it...

So here is a person with very good health care that will not be using it... she did not rule out surgery but that is it.

 

[goeduck]

One of my friends lost her husband of 50 years... she just sold the family home they built and moved to a retirement community... very sharp and gets around well at 87... two weeks into her new home Kaiser calls and says they discovered Breast Cancer... she had full medical as a retired career Kaiser employee.

She told me she is not doing Chemo, Radiation, etc... simply will not do it...

So here is a person with very good health care that will not be using it... she did not rule out surgery but that is it.

At 87 I can understand not wanting to do IV Chemo (rat poison chemo), but at least a lumpectomy, radiation and oral chemo depending on the particular cancers would seem to be doable.

 

[Gale Hawkins]

One of my friends lost her husband of 50 years... she just sold the family home they built and moved to a retirement community... very sharp and gets around well at 87... two weeks into her new home Kaiser calls and says they discovered Breast Cancer... she had full medical as a retired career Kaiser employee.

She told me she is not doing Chemo, Radiation, etc... simply will not do it...

So here is a person with very good health care that will not be using it... she did not rule out surgery but that is it.

While based on the odds her choice sounds reasonable at her age but often times others question these decisions without fully understanding. Three life reversals in a short period of time makes fighting cancer that much harder I expect. She has beat the average longevity average by a country mile.

My friend had a year of chemo, etc and had a short period of remission but it was then total involvement. One never knows what to do for sure. From what I have seen in family and friends fighting cancer is very hard even when young. Now there are some kinds of cancer where treatment outcomes are better than 50 years ago.