Ubifi Rural Internet

   / Ubifi Rural Internet #81  
The one problem i see with ubifi, it uses 4g lte technology. That technology is going away next year. Maybe they will switch to 5g?
That's what I'm hoping. I was told that once 5g is everywhere, almost everyone will get internet via airwaves.
 
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I've been following this thread because I've finally had it with Century Link DSL - it's painfully slow. The Ubifi sounds good, but I've also found OTR Mobile, that uses a Netgear Nighthawk MR1100, and is also on AT&T. Their monthly unlimited is $60. Anyone know anything about them?

My house is fairly long with computers on both ends, and I'm not sure if I'll be able to pick up the signal on each end. If I need a "boost", is it better to use an antenna or something to strengthen the incoming signal, or boost the wi-fi signal inside?
Thanks.

Can you give me a link to their service? I'd like to look at them. Not that I am unhappy with UbiFi, but cheaper is better :)

As for your issue you need to boost potentially both.

The 4g signal is the link between the cell tower and the MoFi/Nighthawk. The strength and quality of that signal will determine how fast and reliable your connection to the outside world is. If this signal is poor get a directional antenna to help. Using a WiFi booster will not help this problem.

The MoFi then converts that signal into the WiFi. So if you have a computer far away from the MoFi you need something to boost the WiFi signal. There are TONS of products on Amazon to do that fairly easily and cheaply. Increasing the 4g signal between the MoFi and the tower will not help this issue.
 
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That's what I'm hoping. I was told that once 5g is everywhere, almost everyone will get internet via airwaves.

4g is NOT going away. It will run side by side with 5g for years..... as 3g has with 4g. Everyone who has a 4g phone would be forced to upgrade to a 5g phone if that were not the case. None of the carriers are going to piss off their customer base by doing that.

Of course once 5g comes out I will want to upgrade to that for better speed.

Not everyone will get their internet over 5g. If you have fiber to the house or a good cable connection those prices are going to drop as well due to the competition. So you will have choices at a good price.
 
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   / Ubifi Rural Internet #85  
Yes mine did, except for the pole. I just used a fence top rail.
I used only one antenna but I have seen people use two. They have apps that will show you the direction of your tower, I just pointed it and had instant sucess. Once I added the antenna I went from 12mb to between 25 and 75mb.
I am currently using unlimetedville for my service provider going through a sprint tower. For some reason I get a better signal with sprint than anyone else
 
   / Ubifi Rural Internet #86  
4g is NOT going away. It will run side by side with 5g for years..... as 3g has with 4g. Everyone who has a 4g phone would be forced to upgrade to a 5g phone if that were not the case. None of the carriers are going to piss off their customer base by doing that.

Of course once 5g comes out I will want to upgrade to that for better speed.

Not everyone will get their internet over 5g. If you have fiber to the house or a good cable connection those prices are going to drop as well due to the competition. So you will have choices at a good price.

Plus, it will take YEARS to roll out 5G to all infrastructure. As with any cell tech improvement they will first start in highly populated areas and then slowly flow it out to more rural places. Likely people who need Mobleys and Mofis right now because of few land-line Internet provider options will be some of the last to get 5G too. Even if 5G does actually reach production-readiness by 2020 and they start implementing it in big cities I think it will be 4-5 years before us folks in the sticks have access.

So Ubifi is still a good investment option for folks who need it.

Rob
 
   / Ubifi Rural Internet #87  
WiFi signal issue is different from 4g signal issue. I have ubiquiti ap on top of my house for Wi-Fi, and it's good for about 500ft. I also have directional antenna for my 4g us celluar modem pointing at a mountain with cell towers

Thanks. So what I should do is first test the incoming 4g signal. If that's low, I need an antenna, or something to improve it. Do these devices typically have a gauge to show signal strength, like a phone has? If I then have an issue with Wi-Fi, then I need something to improve that, right?
 
   / Ubifi Rural Internet #88  
Can you give me a link to their service? I'd like to look at them. Not that I am unhappy with UbiFi, but cheaper is better :)

As for your issue you need to boost potentially both.

The 4g signal is the link between the cell tower and the MoFi/Nighthawk. The strength and quality of that signal will determine how fast and reliable your connection to the outside world is. If this signal is poor get a directional antenna to help. Using a WiFi booster will not help this problem.

The MoFi then converts that signal into the WiFi. So if you have a computer far away from the MoFi you need something to boost the WiFi signal. There are TONS of products on Amazon to do that fairly easily and cheaply. Increasing the 4g signal between the MoFi and the tower will not help this issue.

Thanks for that. OTR Mobile | Unlimited Mobile HotSpot Plans | Unthrottled Access, 4G LTE (I hope that works). Let me know what you think.
 
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So what I should do is first test the incoming 4g signal. If that's low, I need an antenna, or something to improve it. Do these devices typically have a gauge to show signal strength, like a phone has? If I then have an issue with Wi-Fi, then I need something to improve that, right?

First, you need to figure out if you have any signal by the carrier. For example, in our parts of WV US Celluar is it (Verizon rides on US Celluar towers).
If your signal is flaky, you need to figure out where your nearest tower is and point to it, or get as clear line of sight as you can.
Second, you need to determine how good your signal is. Sometimes devices have bars, sometimes their modems have bars when you log into it. Ours had near 0 about 100 feet down the hill where our cabin is, and very good reception on top of the hill. I had experience with signal boosters, but the one i had was a 2G (phone) booster, so I got an antenna for the modem. I almost returned it as the signal barely improved.. but my bandwidth (download speed) did improve even though it was still showing nearly 0 bars, plus I almost never disconnect, so I kept the antenna. I test my bandwidth with speedtest.com
Basically, the higher in the air and the less obstruction it has (trees, mountains) the better your signal (and bandwidth) will be.
While I considered building a solar-powered hub on top of my hill, adding an antenna on top of my house was good enough. I use 4G as my backup link (for DSL), as I am capped to 20 or 40G monthly on my $40 plan, but it really works rather well.

For those of you in the boonies, there are also long distance WiFi providers that might be able to service you depending on elevation. I used one of those services for a few years, but my DSL got sufficiently reliable. Try Search All Internet Providers by Zip Code | HighSpeedInternet.com. These are usually very regional/local providers, they won't be affiliated with AT&T or the like. Mine was/is called wave2net, I am sure you never heard the name.
 
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Thanks. So what I should do is first test the incoming 4g signal. If that's low, I need an antenna, or something to improve it. Do these devices typically have a gauge to show signal strength, like a phone has? If I then have an issue with Wi-Fi, then I need something to improve that, right?

Correct. The UbiFi's unit is called an MoFi. You have to connect to it with an ethernet cable. But then you can log into that unit, test signal strength and the like.

So you need to test both. If you have poor 4g signal coming into the MoFi you need to find where in the house you get the best signal. My phone happens to be att. So I used an app called Open Signal and it tells me what direction the tower is. So I figured out the best place to put the unit. However if I stand right outside the house at that point I get a MUCH better signal. That tells me I need an exterior antenna. I just have not had the time to deal with that.

My lap top and phone both also show me the WiFi signal I am getting. So if that was low I know I would need to install a repeater/booster. There are a ton of different solutions for that problem on the Amazon. For the most part the MoFi is on one end of the house, but the signal on the other end of the house for the WiFi is sufficient that we do not need a repeater.
 

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