Easements and HOA (HOA's) Home Onwers Assocaition's STAY AWAY!!

[MossRoad]

Given our neighbors and layout of the land with houses, that is VERY unlikely to happen. BUT if it did happen, I couldn't do anything. That's one reason why I picked to live where I did.

And that's one of the reasons many people choose to live in zoned areas, HOA's, etc... they don't want a 10,000 head hog operation going in next to them, or a dragstrip, or a trailer park, etc...

As they say, it all depends on who's ox is getting gored.

 

[widefat]

And that's one of the reasons many people choose to live in zoned areas, HOA's, etc... they don't want a 10,000 head hog operation going in next to them, or a dragstrip, or a trailer park, etc...

As they say, it all depends on who's ox is getting gored.

Yep, It's always something.
Just spoke to the wife; fox hound$ all over, and a gent on horseback in full regalia lumbering across our property with no sense of urgency.
Va. is one of those states where fox hunter$ can go anywhere they please, without notice, without permission. All you can do is wave, smile, and hope they enjoy looking around your property.

 

[MossRoad]

Yep, It's always something.
Just spoke to the wife; fox hound$ all over, and a gent on horseback in full regalia lumbering across our property with no sense of urgency.
Va. is one of those states where fox hunter$ can go anywhere they please, without notice, without permission. All you can do is wave, smile, and hope they enjoy looking around your property.

When I first joined TBN back around the turn of the century (I've always wanted to say that), there was discussion about trespassing. Here, land doesn't have to be posted. I was surprised at the number of states where all land is considered open UNLESS posted otherwise. Here it's assumed it's all private to begin with. Each state is different and I now see where and why it is that way.

 

[widefat]

When I first joined TBN back around the turn of the century (I've always wanted to say that), there was discussion about trespassing. Here, land doesn't have to be posted. I was surprised at the number of states where all land is considered open UNLESS posted otherwise. Here it's assumed it's all private to begin with. Each state is different and I now see where and why it is that way.

Oh but, in Va, even if your land is posted, fenced, locked, and alarmed - the Fox Hunting Clubs can go and come as they please; the landowner has no rights.

 

[Oldoak]

Va. is one of those states where fox hunter$ can go anywhere they please, without notice, without permission. All you can do is wave, smile, and hope they enjoy looking around your property.

Wow, I never know that. Not many foxe left in our neck of the woods, but if they were coyote hunters they would certainly be welcome on my property and many of our neighbors properties as well.

 

[MossRoad]

Oh but, in Va, even if your land is posted, fenced, locked, and alarmed - the Fox Hunting Clubs can go and come as they please; the landowner has no rights.

That's interesting. I don't think I'd like that.

 

[MossRoad]

Oh but, in Va, even if your land is posted, fenced, locked, and alarmed - the Fox Hunting Clubs can go and come as they please; the landowner has no rights.

Reading up on it a bit...... it's not quite that they can come and go as they please.

SS 18.2-136. Right of certain hunters to go on lands of another; carrying firearms or bows and arrows prohibited

18.2-136. Right of certain hunters to go on lands of another; carrying firearms or bows and arrows prohibited.
Fox hunters and coon hunters, when the chase begins on other lands, may follow their dogs on prohibited lands, and hunters of all other game, when the chase begins on other lands, may go upon prohibited lands to retrieve their dogs, falcons, hawks, or owls but may not carry firearms or bows and arrows on their persons or hunt any game while thereon. The use of vehicles to retrieve dogs, falcons, hawks, or owls on prohibited lands shall be allowed only with the permission of the landowner or his agent. Any person who goes on prohibited lands to retrieve his dogs, falcons, hawks, or owls pursuant to this section and who willfully refuses to identify himself when requested by the landowner or his agent to do so is guilty of a Class 4 misdemeanor.

Code 1950, § 29-168; 1964, c. 600; 1975, cc. 14, 15; 1988, c. 593; 1991, cc. 317, 327; 2007, cc. 145, 658; 2011, c. 191.

 

[widefat]

Reading up on it a bit...... it's not quite that they can come and go as they please.

SS 18.2-136. Right of certain hunters to go on lands of another; carrying firearms or bows and arrows prohibited

18.2-136. Right of certain hunters to go on lands of another; carrying firearms or bows and arrows prohibited.
Fox hunters and coon hunters, when the chase begins on other lands, may follow their dogs on prohibited lands, and hunters of all other game, when the chase begins on other lands, may go upon prohibited lands to retrieve their dogs, falcons, hawks, or owls but may not carry firearms or bows and arrows on their persons or hunt any game while thereon. The use of vehicles to retrieve dogs, falcons, hawks, or owls on prohibited lands shall be allowed only with the permission of the landowner or his agent. Any person who goes on prohibited lands to retrieve his dogs, falcons, hawks, or owls pursuant to this section and who willfully refuses to identify himself when requested by the landowner or his agent to do so is guilty of a Class 4 misdemeanor.

Code 1950, § 29-168; 1964, c. 600; 1975, cc. 14, 15; 1988, c. 593; 1991, cc. 317, 327; 2007, cc. 145, 658; 2011, c. 191.

Oh, but they can. unless you are talking about the firearm and vehicle restrictions. As I said though, these are fox hunting clubs. On horses, no guns.
So yes indeed, as they please.
This has been tested many times, and the fox hunters win.

And, the law has been interpreted to mean that a deer hunter using dogs can also enter the property without permission, on foot as long as they are unarmed.

 

[Industrial Toys]

That'a almost as rude as someone flying over your place in an aircarft with no mufflers.

Some people just think they are privileged and extra special, I guess.

 

[MossRoad]

Oh, but they can. unless you are talking about the firearm and vehicle restrictions. As I said though, these are fox hunting clubs. On horses, no guns.
So yes indeed, as they please.
This has been tested many times, and the fox hunters win.

And, the law has been interpreted to mean that a deer hunter using dogs can also enter the property without permission, on foot as long as they are unarmed.

Only to retrieve their animals. That's what the law says, and that's how it's been upheld in everything I've read. They can't "hunt" on your property, but they can "retrieve" their dogs. In everything I've read, that's for both fox hunters on horseback using dogs, and deer hunters using dogs. Raccoon hunters, too, it appears. None of them can be armed when retrieving their dogs. And you have to let them attempt to retrieve their dogs. But they can't "hunt" on your property without your permission.

Which seems kinda like, hey, my dogs are chasing a fox or deer through your property, and I have to chase my dogs, so hi and bye.

I also read several stories about people that can't hunt their own property very well due to dogs running through from other properties chasing the deer and foxes out and generally causing a commotion.

I don't think I'd like that either. But what can you do but comply with the law and work to get it changed?