First Post, First day owning a tractor, and I already need HELP! Kinda Long!

   / First Post, First day owning a tractor, and I already need HELP! Kinda Long! #41  
Been following this interesting thread as I had a similar situation with a used truck that i owned for 2.5 hours when the tranny gave in so kudos to your dealer! I reluctantly contacted the seller knowing right well it was not going to go anywhere and it didn't and I left it at that. Anyway, sorry about your misfortune and better tractor shopping in the future. Just curious what this was for a tractor and where about in the country you're from. Been tractor shopping a longggg time myself and used equipment unless I know the seller and history is at best a shot in the dark.
 
   / First Post, First day owning a tractor, and I already need HELP! Kinda Long! #42  
I LOVE your rationale shooterdon!! It makes complete and utter sense!

OK, here is the other side.... It also makes sense to do it this way.....

You could just buy an older tractor like shooterDon did. Something old enough to be affordable made of good standard parts like a reliable engine, simple hydraulics, simple electrics, no computer, and a basic gear transmission. Decide that y]ou are going to teach yourself about mechanical things by using the tractor as your teacher. The trick to what I'm about to propose is to start with the right machine. You want one that is basically running and from one of the brands with good availability for parts and workshop manuals. It sure helps to get a brand that has owners that like them enough to work on them. Try to save 10/20% of your budget for parts, tools, and workshop manuals.

All the simple tractors that have a lot in common with one another. You'll find that they are mostly 15 years old or older and from an era when tractors were built to be repaired by owners and therefore last forever. Common "cult" brands that have clubbish type of owners who do this are JD, Yanmar, Massey, and some older Kubotas. There are others. It depends on the area. I know one large farming area in my state where the "go to" used tractors are old Zetors. That's because there's a good dealer who has been there years and provides parts and technical help.

Frankly that Branson would have fit the bill perfectly, but having been in a flood is just starting from way too far down. Your money will buy a better machine that is just worn and beat up instead of terminally flooded. You can find decent older tractors if you read between the lines on tractordata.com & tractorhouse.com

Expect that it will have neglected maintenance which means it is going to need repair work in the first few years. Then use that as your motivation to learn how to do that necessary mechanical work, because learning about mechanical things and how to fix and build them is going to be a pain, but one that will ultimately pay you back many many times over your lifetime. Being simple, rugged, slow, and forgiving, a tractor is great for teaching you all these things. And by learning mechanics, that tractor will have made you instead of costing you money. Only real downside for a young guy is to accept that the tradeoff is the time you spend learning. So share that time with your kid. They love to learn.

All this can work for you because it did for me. It's more about lifestyle than about tractors. For this poor southern boy, learning how to" fix it myself f" was the key to everything good.
From there a person can get fix lots of other things too. Like building a house, getting free of car payments, maybe even finish HS and on to college....., he can do all of those things. I know because I did. And maybe even teach his kids how to do them as well.
rScotty
 
   / First Post, First day owning a tractor, and I already need HELP! Kinda Long!
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#43  
rScotty - I think you missed your higher calling, a motivational speaker.

I love where you are going with this!! But those who said "you need a hassle free tractor" are 100% correct. I have far too many projects at the moment (as I am sure most of us do), I don't need a project tractor. Thanks for believing in me though!
 
   / First Post, First day owning a tractor, and I already need HELP! Kinda Long! #44  
I am definitely taking the refund, check's already in the bank. I have been searching Craigslist at it is daunting. That tractor was sooooo exactly what I was looking for in size, weight, power. Alas, it wasn't meant to be.

Cathy Liebchen can you explain your comment a little.? I have now decided maybe I shouldn't look for the best bargain. Even if it means throwing in more than the $10k I paid for that last one. I can borrow the rest.

Again thanks one and all for the comments!

Here is my take (and the reason I decided to go new). If you didnt have enough knowledge of tractors to check the fluids for water and various other items before you bought a used machine, then you arent ready for a used machine.
 
   / First Post, First day owning a tractor, and I already need HELP! Kinda Long! #45  
That might be true Jchon, but I bet a lot of guys on this site started out mechanically limited, and became decent mechanics as the years went by.

I know that is my story anyway.
 
   / First Post, First day owning a tractor, and I already need HELP! Kinda Long! #46  
Here is my take (and the reason I decided to go new). If you didnt have enough knowledge of tractors to check the fluids for water and various other items before you bought a used machine, then you arent ready for a used machine.

Oh, I don't know about that. There's nothing like necessity for a motivator. ... unless maybe it's pure naked desire.
And there's really not a single thing that a tractor can do that a young guy with a shovel and wheelbarrow can't.
rScotty
 
   / First Post, First day owning a tractor, and I already need HELP! Kinda Long! #47  
That might be true Jchon, but I bet a lot of guys on this site started out mechanically limited, and became decent mechanics as the years went by.

I know that is my story anyway.

Here, here. Grasshopper here (me) has learned much in the few years I have been on this forum. I am sorta thinking that this might be what this forum is supposed to be for! :)
 
   / First Post, First day owning a tractor, and I already need HELP! Kinda Long! #48  
Oh, I don't know about that. There's nothing like necessity for a motivator. ... unless maybe it's pure naked desire.
And there's really not a single thing that a tractor can do that a young guy with a shovel and wheelbarrow can't.
rScotty

Yeah, but I ain't a young guy any more, and hydraulics are a wonderful thing. :)
 
   / First Post, First day owning a tractor, and I already need HELP! Kinda Long!
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#49  
Final Update!

So I spoke to the owner of Mathis Trailer and Equipment in Rome, GA where I bought this lemon of a tractor. He swears up and down there is nothing wrong with this tractor. To the point that it is still for sale on Craigslist and sitting on his lot. He said the oil that spewed onto my driveway from the driveshaft was "just a little" that got past the rear seal and mixed with the rainwater on delivery. He said the milky sight glass was because there is a little leak in the sight glass so it turned milky white. While I am glad he was honest enough to give me a refund, something is fishy about this situation. None of these things seem normal to me, seems like a good mechanic should have caught all of these things before it was put out on their lot, seems like a big waste of time for him and me this whole ordeal. Water under the bridge at this point I guess. The whole thing just feels a little shady. I did learn a thing or 2 in this ordeal and all it cost me is a little gas and time. I am quite certain I am going to still go the Branson Route, but I will be buy a new one from his competitor. He is closer and he gave me a better deal, so it is a win win!
 
   / First Post, First day owning a tractor, and I already need HELP! Kinda Long! #50  
Final Update!

So I spoke to the owner of Mathis Trailer and Equipment in Rome, GA where I bought this lemon of a tractor. He swears up and down there is nothing wrong with this tractor. To the point that it is still for sale on Craigslist and sitting on his lot. He said the oil that spewed onto my driveway from the driveshaft was "just a little" that got past the rear seal and mixed with the rainwater on delivery. He said the milky sight glass was because there is a little leak in the sight glass so it turned milky white. While I am glad he was honest enough to give me a refund, something is fishy about this situation. None of these things seem normal to me, seems like a good mechanic should have caught all of these things before it was put out on their lot, seems like a big waste of time for him and me this whole ordeal. Water under the bridge at this point I guess. The whole thing just feels a little shady. I did learn a thing or 2 in this ordeal and all it cost me is a little gas and time. I am quite certain I am going to still go the Branson Route, but I will be buy a new one from his competitor. He is closer and he gave me a better deal, so it is a win win!
Well I gotta know, what did you get?
 

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