Why No Hydraulic Filters On Most Older Farm Tractors

   / Why No Hydraulic Filters On Most Older Farm Tractors #11  
My guess is that marketing had something to do with adding filters. Sales people could use a filter as a selling point and point out that the competition was so poorly made that it didn’t even have a hydraulic filter. Pretty soon everyone had a filter.
 
   / Why No Hydraulic Filters On Most Older Farm Tractors #12  
deserteagle71
Correction: the oldest your JD 2020 could be is 54 yrs as 1965 was the introduction year of JD 2020's. I think the reason hyd filters were added to hyd systems is because of the complexity of control valves.
 
   / Why No Hydraulic Filters On Most Older Farm Tractors
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#13  
What do you consider old? My 60 year old John Deere 2020 has both a sump screen and a separate canister type hydraulic filter (Wix 1147) that I change out periodically. A messy job; getting the canister and filter off the tractor is easy but then getting it all back together is a real pain!

Sorry, I did not intend to insult your almost 60 year old tractor :)

I stated “most” older tractors based on my experience and admittedly limited knowledge of the universal tractor population. I’m sure there were/are exceptions. I believe the addition of filtration was driven, at least partially, by increasing use of hydraulics for something other than supplying the 3 pt hitch.
 
   / Why No Hydraulic Filters On Most Older Farm Tractors #14  
Most of them are still working today without the fluid being changed in decades, if they were low on fluid, we would add a little and keep on working.. Meanwhile we continue to troubleshoot electrical problems on our new tractors daily, go figure..
 
   / Why No Hydraulic Filters On Most Older Farm Tractors #15  
Most of them are still working today without the fluid being changed in decades, if they were low on fluid, we would add a little and keep on working.. Meanwhile we continue to troubleshoot electrical problems on our new tractors daily, go figure..
Electrical problems were not created by the addition of hydraulic filters.
 
   / Why No Hydraulic Filters On Most Older Farm Tractors #16  
I've got to go with availability. Older tractors seem to be built for self sufficient farmers. They'd clean that screen and not need a trip to a dealer. Now that most places are more built up, getting that filter isn't a big deal.
 
   / Why No Hydraulic Filters On Most Older Farm Tractors #17  
I've got to go with availability. Older tractors seem to be built for self sufficient farmers. They'd clean that screen and not need a trip to a dealer. Now that most places are more built up, getting that filter isn't a big deal.

Successful farmers have always exhibited self sufficiency.
I would submit that the practice of a trip to the dealer to get filters changes is in large part far more recent than the advent of the filter itself. I can think of exactly one farmer that sent his tractors in regularly for basic service to the CaseIH dealership I worked at in 1995. The number is far, far higher today, even when not considering the compact tractor segment.
 
   / Why No Hydraulic Filters On Most Older Farm Tractors #18  
Filters were one of many improvements and advances on tractors just as on cars.
For many years there where no oil filters either, petcocks on oil pans to check
levels. Then we got screens for engine oil and later filters, many a toliet paper oil
filter got added to tractors, trucks and cars. Many early oil filters were bypass filter,
they just took a slip stream of oil to filter and return to the pan, the clean oil wasn't even circulated.
Sediment bowls with screens for fuel filters. As tractors and engines advanced so did filters
and transmissions and hydraulics went from being available to being necessary.
Now hydraulics are a major part of a tractor. Pressure has gone from a few hundred pounds
to a few thousand pounds, the cost and performance of the pumps and the tractors has evolved immensely.
 
   / Why No Hydraulic Filters On Most Older Farm Tractors #19  
Electrical problems were not created by the addition of hydraulic filters.

Of course not. Fact of the matter is, the old tractors had no issues with manual transmissions without filters, the hydro and other modern transmissions require more filtering and maintenance.
 
   / Why No Hydraulic Filters On Most Older Farm Tractors #20  
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Of course not. Fact of the matter is, the old tractors had no issues with manual transmissions without filters, the hydro and other modern transmissions require more filtering and maintenance.

Yet early hydraulic systems had no filtration which is the actual topic of this thread.
 

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