Commercial Use?

[Diggin It]

Residential Construction may fall under 'small business' the same as landscapers and electrical or plumbing contractors who would be doing essentially the same types of digging, trenching and moving dirt, debris or equipment around a site.

And as noted, 'commercial construction' does not appear to be fully excluded. It only shortens the terms of coverage.

 

[MossRoad]

Residential Construction may fall under 'small business' the same as landscapers and electrical or plumbing contractors who would be doing essentially the same types of digging, trenching and moving dirt, debris or equipment around a site.

And as noted, 'commercial construction' does not appear to be fully excluded. It only shortens the terms of coverage.

As it reads

"* Definition of Non-Institutional Use: RK Tractors Equipment and associated products that is purchased and exclusivily used for per- sonal, consumer type of homeowner usage, non-institutional farming or other small business use which does not include demolition, paving, bulldozing, mining, quarry operations, commercial construction, gravel yard or commercial forestry operations."

demolition: removal of razed material, like broken boards, drywall, concrete, roofing, etc... tearing out a paved driveway is considered demolition
paving: besides asphalt and concrete, rocks are considered paving
bulldozing: that's pushing earth
mining: that's digging undisturbed earth and selling any of it, rocks, sand, gravel... etc.
quarry operations: don't know the definition of quarrying
commercial construction: that's building structures for hire
gravel yard: self explanitory
commercial forestry operations: harvest of timber for lumber, firewood, other wood products for sale


That's the kinds of things you have to wonder if you do and something fails, will it be covered under warranty? Having not read too many tractor warranties, or never having to make a warranty claim on a tractor used in a business, it's just something I'd be interested in if I was purchasing a machine of any make or model.

So in the OP's original post, it's something for the potential purchaser to consider and study before purchasing, IF it is important to him. It might just be the cost of doing business. Up to him.

 

[MossRoad]

Residential Construction may fall under 'small business' the same as landscapers and electrical or plumbing contractors who would be doing essentially the same types of digging, trenching and moving dirt, debris or equipment around a site.

And as noted, 'commercial construction' does not appear to be fully excluded. It only shortens the terms of coverage.

The way I'm reading it, the warranty for small business is two years, unless you perform:

"demolition, paving, bulldozing, mining, quarry operations, commercial construction, gravel yard or commercial forestry operations"

If you do any of those tasks, there appears to be no warranty coverage.

Is that not what it's saying?

 

[Diggin It]

That's the kinds of things you have to wonder if you do and something fails, will it be covered under warranty? Having not read too many tractor warranties, or never having to make a warranty claim on a tractor used in a business, it's just something I'd be interested in if I was purchasing a machine of any make or model.

As I read it, they would be covered for the first two years. After that is in question.

 

[Trillium Farm]

Another question would be is the unit's warranty covered for commercial work? Good thing to find out ahead of time.

BINGO !!!

 

[Diggin It]

The way I'm reading it, the warranty for small business is two years, unless you perform:

"demolition, paving, bulldozing, mining, quarry operations, commercial construction, gravel yard or commercial forestry operations"

If you do any of those tasks, there appears to be no warranty coverage.

Is that not what it's saying?

Cross posted. No, not as I see it. They'd be covered for the first two years under 'All Other Use'. The exclusions noted come into play after that.


Bottom line is that the policy could be MUCH more clearly stated. As we can see in this thread, it's too ambiguous and leaves too much to interpretation.

There's a line credited to either MacArthur or Eisenhower, can't recall which: 'Don't give orders that can be understood. Give orders that cannot be misunderstood."

 

[MossRoad]

...The exclusions noted come into play after that.
...

No they don't. The asterisk is listed well before the "All Other Use".

 

[Diggin It]

But the phrase you're leaning on is " Definition of Non-Institutional Use:" which doesn't appear to include either 'Government' or 'All Other Use'.

Hopefully RK Tractor Guy will respond with a more complete post than his previous one above.

 

[MossRoad]

But the phrase you're leaning on is " Definition of Non-Institutional Use:" which doesn't appear to include either 'Government' or 'All Other Use'.

Hopefully RK Tractor Guy will respond with a more complete post than his previous one above.

Agreed. :thumbsup:

 

[Tennsawdust]

But the phrase you're leaning on is " Definition of Non-Institutional Use:" which doesn't appear to include either 'Government' or 'All Other Use'.

Hopefully RK Tractor Guy will respond with a more complete post than his previous one above.

The way I read it that line is there to define Non-Institutional Use and define what would be considered excluded from the "Government and Non-Institutional Use" section. Anything else would then fall under the "Any Other Use" category, which limits engine warranty period for those users. As I read it, commercial use would fall under the "Any Other Use" category and be subject to those warranty terms.

At any rate, the subject of our discussion was apparently happy with what the salesman at the store told him because he has ordered the tractor. He seemed to be very happy with his experience with them so far.