Big cities are dying. This should shock you.

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   / Big cities are dying. This should shock you. #211  
The fix after making emergency repairs sectioning in a section of pipe with NO Backflow Device was to install new backflows and cage everything with each cage have two disc type keyed locks...

After time you just know this is business as usual... nothing is going to happen if the person is caught although public endangerment would elevate this above copper theft...

When you think about it much of society, especially the cities with built up infrastructure is especially vulnerable... there were never be enough law enforcement to have one at every street corner... so the alternative is to fortify structures and systems to make them less vulnerable to vandals...

Back during the foreclosure crisis I looked a number of homes where the stucco was chipped out from thieves stealing the aluminum window frames and insides missing copper wire, pipe, water heater and furnaces...
 
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The fix after making emergency repairs sectioning in a section of pipe with NO Backflow Device was to install new backflows and cage everything with each cage have two disc type keyed locks...

After time you just know this is business as usual... nothing is going to happen if the person is caught although public endangerment would elevate this above copper theft...

When you think about it much of society, especially the cities with built up infrastructure is especially vulnerable... there were never be enough law enforcement to have one at every street corner... so the alternative is to fortify structures and systems to make them less vulnerable to vandals...

Back during the foreclosure crisis I looked a number of homes where the stucco was chipped out from thieves stealing the aluminum window frames and insides missing copper wire, pipe, water heater and furnaces...

I know that I am a broken record on this but city officials telling cops not to enforce laws ought to be held personally responsible for the consequences. And in the case of a hospital it could easily be the loss of life. I would like to see a city official brought up on charges.
 
   / Big cities are dying. This should shock you. #213  
I know that I am a broken record on this but city officials telling cops not to enforce laws ought to be held personally responsible for the consequences. And in the case of a hospital it could easily be the loss of life. I would like to see a city official brought up on charges.

They should be held personally/financially responsible for the havoc created by their policies.
But I blame the idiots who allow their public servants get away with this and then vote them in AGAIN!
 
   / Big cities are dying. This should shock you. #214  
I would forget about cages, locks and such but sentence a guilty individual to 20 years hard labour, in some revenue producing activity. 20 years, not less a day! Maybe, shredding tires with simple hand tools and their production determines how much they get to eat that day. I think the instances of theft would drop off somewhat.
 
   / Big cities are dying. This should shock you. #215  
Adjacent to the property is a shopping center and for about 250' the rear of a row of shopping center building and the Hospital are separated by a narrow ally...

A plank was sued to span the 10' distance to get from the shopping center roof to the hospital roof.

The shopping center has had several run in with rooftop metal bandits... cutting out the copper and aluminum from package units to sell for scrap...

I have been more fortunate but have had the entire backflow main water supply assembly stolen for the $20 in scrap it would bring... an entire hospital without water from copper thieves... plus the geyser of water shooting past the roof line...

I got a call at 1 am saying the toilet on one floor did not work so the nurse took her patient to another an it did not work and then they found none of the toilets or faucets worked...
That's funny about the backflow valve. We have had alot of things other than wire stolen at work. It's real sad, but one was a 2" pipe thread brass valve on an oil filled peice of live electric equipment. Another has been cutting fiber optic cable thinking it is wire........
Oh yeah on the subject of fiber optic, alot of fiber optic gets severed by stray bullets.
 
   / Big cities are dying. This should shock you. #216  
That's funny about the backflow valve. We have had alot of things other than wire stolen at work. It's real sad, but one was a 2" pipe thread brass valve on an oil filled peice of live electric equipment. Another has been cutting fiber optic cable thinking it is wire........
Oh yeah on the subject of fiber optic, alot of fiber optic gets severed by stray bullets.

Yes... the bullets are a problem and for some reason transformers make easy targets...

I have had my house shot up and made the evening news... the shooter had the right address but wrong street...

As kids we were taught to shelter in the bath tub when there was gunfire... it is low and you have cast iron protecting you... I have found a hand gun in the shrubs and a paper bag of drugs... all turned over to police... this all happened in the 80's...

So in one way... things are improving and in others not... growing up simply did not ever see homeless camps... yet crime was worse...

A new blight is scabies on public transit buses... even bus drivers are getting scabies... the latest story is the VTA...
 
   / Big cities are dying. This should shock you. #217  
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You live in an altogether different world over there, although we do have a growing drug problem I can't imagine what it's like to worry about gang wars and the like.. Hiding in a new bathtub wouldn't help you much, as they are now made of fiberglass.
 
   / Big cities are dying. This should shock you. #218  
Yes... the bullets are a problem and for some reason transformers make easy targets...

I have had my house shot up and made the evening news... the shooter had the right address but wrong street...

As kids we were taught to shelter in the bath tub when there was gunfire... it is low and you have cast iron protecting you... I have found a hand gun in the shrubs and a paper bag of drugs... all turned over to police... this all happened in the 80's...

So in one way... things are improving and in others not... growing up simply did not ever see homeless camps... yet crime was worse...

A new blight is scabies on public transit buses... even bus drivers are getting scabies... the latest story is the VTA...

Of course I'm not a doctor, but I haven't seen a case of scabies since the early 50's. The influx of immigrants is bringing all sorts of maladies that we pretty much had under control for many years. Bedbugs is one example; have a friend who works...let's just say at a university...who says they are a problem. Middle Eastern students bring them with them in their clothing and baggage, and keeping them under control in student housing has been a problem. Not to mention Venereal diseases, measles, etc.
 
   / Big cities are dying. This should shock you. #219  
Some of the local Universities require the dorms totally vacated between semesters... often wondered if this was to keep bugs and such at bay?

Bedbugs are a real problem as well as a host of other almost forgotten maladies...

The 22,000 BART public transit fare evaders per workday is almost unfathomable...

In the news the family of a young women stabbed to death by a fare evader is suing BART saying she would still be alive if BART didn't have an open door to fare evasion...

When the system opened it was beautiful with gleaming cars and stations... most of the riders were in business attire... it is anything but that now and the worst part is the never ending subsidies it gets from people that have never used the system...

Dad had friends that moved to the country... they did not do well as they were not self reliant and had no network established to help...

A tree fell and blocked there driveway... they called the county who sent someone out who told them the tree is on private property... so they had to find someone to hire... similar issues with well, septic, reliable power... etc...
 
   / Big cities are dying. This should shock you. #220  
Dad had friends that moved to the country... they did not do well as they were not self reliant and had no network established to help...

A tree fell and blocked there driveway... they called the county who sent someone out who told them the tree is on private property... so they had to find someone to hire... similar issues with well, septic, reliable power... etc...

That's the reason people don't move to the country. In February we had a couple feet of heavy, wet snow that brought down trees across the county road. By 8:00 the next morning a crew of neighbors was at work with tractors and chainsaws clearing the road, which was open again by 10 AM. It was the next day before county public works even drove out to take a look at it. Then they sent out a snowplow, that blocked everyone's driveway, so out came the tractors again to clean up their mess.
 
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