Adding a Turbo to the 2510

[Texasmark]

Kukje/Branson actually have the license from Cummins to build their engines. So all Branson tractors get basically Cummins engines.

Both mine have Cummins: B 3.3 NA and A1100N, both naturally aspired, 4 and 3 cyls. No computers, no DEF, no fancy stuff just good reliable, mechanical diesel. My 2400 turns into a 28 hp 2800 with the addition of a turbo. But HP is not an issue with that little sucker, more than enough. Only issue I had was the OEM R4 tires, like most of the small tractors you see have rears rated over 2400# each at recommended pressure. That's 4800# to carry less than half of an 1800# (without loader which makes the rear that much lighter) tractor. Going to R1s goes a long way to solve that problem....finally did that.

On letting the air out of the tires down from rated to the 10# area, especially with fluid filling or with wheel weights, it's hard to keep the tire-wheel seal. Either the tire runs off the rim or spins on the rim....with the new, slick, freshly painted wheels. The 8x16 ags rated for 35# I just put on, running at 12# with weights and all works fine at absorbing shock and staying intact. Even at 6 ply the sidewall is softer than R3 or 4s.

 

[sd455dan]

We"ll be very interested to hear your impressions of both tractors.

Thanks!

back from the trip...

Checked out the large frame Kioti in the non common rail size also. nephew liked the build quality but not the non syncro shifting.

arrived at the LS/ Branson dealer and tried out the 3025 interestingly they had 2 different loader mount designs on the XG 3025 one type did not have the support bars running to the rear axle.

overall liked the XG although even shifting carefully at medium RPM the tractor would spin the rear tires when shifting- seemed very light in the rear. I also wasn't crazy about the loaders lift height.

got quotes on the bare tractor/FEL of $16000.

We were about to leave and nephew mentions how I really liked the specs and this was the 1st time to actually see a Branson in person. Salesman says you want to check them out and hands us a key... nephew asks the salesman which brand he personally prefers, he doesn't hesitate and says Branson.

we tried out a 30 HP 2018 model that he had with hydro max hydrostat and even though nephew is gear man he REALLY liked the Branson

dealer was willing to sell it with loader for about $17,600 $1600 more than the 25 hp LS 3025

things that I liked about the Branson

loader mounting and support appeared heavier than the LS all seemed to have support bars to rear axle
tractor had the push pull hydrostatic steering with no drag link,
It also turned sharper than ANY 4x4 tractor i have driven.
HydroMax Hydrostat with the linked throttle worked very well -very smooth and easy to use plus it had 3 ranges.
NICE suspension seat
Loader lifted more and to a higher height
when accelerating tractor just felt much more planted due to the extra 600 lbs weight.
checking the 3 point specs- it also lifts over 3000 lbs, and over 2400lbs @24 inches out almost double the LS
Larger engine lower RPM
PTO has economy mode also very handy
Non computer controlled and modifying the DPF after warranty is out seems like an easier solution than other brands.

Sure i forgot some other things but,
Overall we were both very impressed with the Branson and nephew is almost a hydrostat and Branson convert....

Heading home we visit grandma and before we leave makes offer to help buy tractor but her significant other has owned boats with Yanmar diesel engines and loves them. Also absolutely does not like any machines from korea...

So drive by and look at the tractors outside the closed local JD dealership...


ps. Branson /LS dealer said new Branson models already on the way to dealership - non emission 25 HP models with same size (derated) engine as 30 hp, syncro shuttle 12/12 or hydromax and the same large frame with same or even slightly more FEL lift capacity. will be about same as the 2018 30hp model priced at about $17600 iirc

 

[Texasmark]

back from the trip...

Checked out the large frame Kioti in the non common rail size also. nephew liked the build quality but not the non syncro shifting.

arrived at the LS/ Branson dealer and tried out the 3025 interestingly they had 2 different loader mount designs on the XG 3025 one type did not have the support bars running to the rear axle.

overall liked the XG although even shifting carefully at medium RPM the tractor would spin the rear tires when shifting- seemed very light in the rear. I also wasn't crazy about the loaders lift height.

got quotes on the bare tractor/FEL of $16000.

We were about to leave and nephew mentions how I really liked the specs and this was the 1st time to actually see a Branson in person. Salesman says you want to check them out and hands us a key... nephew asks the salesman which brand he personally prefers, he doesn't hesitate and says Branson.

we tried out a 30 HP 2018 model that he had with hydro max hydrostat and even though nephew is gear man he REALLY liked the Branson

dealer was willing to sell it with loader for about $17,600 $1600 more than the 25 hp LS 3025

things that I liked about the Branson

loader mounting and support appeared heavier than the LS all seemed to have support bars to rear axle
tractor had the push pull hydrostatic steering with no drag link,
It also turned sharper than ANY 4x4 tractor i have driven.
HydroMax Hydrostat with the linked throttle worked very well -very smooth and easy to use plus it had 3 ranges.
NICE suspension seat
Loader lifted more and to a higher height
when accelerating tractor just felt much more planted due to the extra 600 lbs weight.
checking the 3 point specs- it also lifts over 3000 lbs, and over 2400lbs @24 inches out almost double the LS
Larger engine lower RPM
PTO has economy mode also very handy
Non computer controlled and modifying the DPF after warranty is out seems like an easier solution than other brands.

Sure i forgot some other things but,
Overall we were both very impressed with the Branson and nephew is almost a hydrostat and Branson convert....

Heading home we visit grandma and before we leave makes offer to help buy tractor but her significant other has owned boats with Yanmar diesel engines and loves them. Also absolutely does not like any machines from korea...

So drive by and look at the tractors outside the closed local JD dealership...


ps. Branson /LS dealer said new Branson models already on the way to dealership - non emission 25 HP models with same size (derated) engine as 30 hp, syncro shuttle 12/12 or hydromax and the same large frame with same or even slightly more FEL lift capacity. will be about same as the 2018 30hp model priced at about $17600 iirc

"Well my great grandpappy, my grandpappy, my daddy, and my older brothers all drove Fords and by God I'm going to too!"

 

[Branson Bob]

Thanks for getting back to us.

Branson's appeal is based on some basic things, most of which you mentioned.

Regarding Korean machines, it speaks loudly that Hyundai entered the US passenger car market the same year as Yugo did.

Hyundai was the first and is still one of the few that offer 10 years/100,000 miles.

Kia has been a very successful brand since coming to the US.

South Korea is the largest ship building nation in the world and one of the leaders in oil rig construction.

It's perplexing that someone would have issues with Korean-made machinery.

back from the trip...

Checked out the large frame Kioti in the non common rail size also. nephew liked the build quality but not the non syncro shifting.

arrived at the LS/ Branson dealer and tried out the 3025 interestingly they had 2 different loader mount designs on the XG 3025 one type did not have the support bars running to the rear axle.

overall liked the XG although even shifting carefully at medium RPM the tractor would spin the rear tires when shifting- seemed very light in the rear. I also wasn't crazy about the loaders lift height.

got quotes on the bare tractor/FEL of $16000.

We were about to leave and nephew mentions how I really liked the specs and this was the 1st time to actually see a Branson in person. Salesman says you want to check them out and hands us a key... nephew asks the salesman which brand he personally prefers, he doesn't hesitate and says Branson.

we tried out a 30 HP 2018 model that he had with hydro max hydrostat and even though nephew is gear man he REALLY liked the Branson

dealer was willing to sell it with loader for about $17,600 $1600 more than the 25 hp LS 3025

things that I liked about the Branson

loader mounting and support appeared heavier than the LS all seemed to have support bars to rear axle
tractor had the push pull hydrostatic steering with no drag link,
It also turned sharper than ANY 4x4 tractor i have driven.
HydroMax Hydrostat with the linked throttle worked very well -very smooth and easy to use plus it had 3 ranges.
NICE suspension seat
Loader lifted more and to a higher height
when accelerating tractor just felt much more planted due to the extra 600 lbs weight.
checking the 3 point specs- it also lifts over 3000 lbs, and over 2400lbs @24 inches out almost double the LS
Larger engine lower RPM
PTO has economy mode also very handy
Non computer controlled and modifying the DPF after warranty is out seems like an easier solution than other brands.

Sure i forgot some other things but,
Overall we were both very impressed with the Branson and nephew is almost a hydrostat and Branson convert....

Heading home we visit grandma and before we leave makes offer to help buy tractor but her significant other has owned boats with Yanmar diesel engines and loves them. Also absolutely does not like any machines from korea...

So drive by and look at the tractors outside the closed local JD dealership...


ps. Branson /LS dealer said new Branson models already on the way to dealership - non emission 25 HP models with same size (derated) engine as 30 hp, syncro shuttle 12/12 or hydromax and the same large frame with same or even slightly more FEL lift capacity. will be about same as the 2018 30hp model priced at about $17600 iirc

 

[sd455dan]

Thanks for getting back to us.

Branson's appeal is based on some basic things, most of which you mentioned.

Regarding Korean machines, it speaks loudly that Hyundai entered the US passenger car market the same year as Yugo did.

Hyundai was the first and is still one of the few that offer 10 years/100,000 miles.

Kia has been a very successful brand since coming to the US.

South Korea is the largest ship building nation in the world and one of the leaders in oil rig construction.

It's perplexing that someone would have issues with Korean-made machinery.

Yeah i don't get it either- Maybe something to do with the Korean war?
But if we are going that route what makes Japan any different with Pearl Harbor...

Anyway i was impressed with the Branson tractors and (someday) plan on getting a smaller 24-40 hp tractor to augment my 1993 China built rhino.

Branson will Certainly be in the running.

ps. I think the new 2515 H and R models will sell Very Well

And looking forward to Papecats turbo mod

 

[Industrial Toys]

Something may appear heavier made, but out of what? Is it made heavier to compensate for weaker material or material with poor quality control? Not saying, this is the case, just something to consider.

 

[sd455dan]

Something may appear heavier made, but out of what? Is it made heavier to compensate for weaker material or material with poor quality control? Not saying, this is the case, just something to consider.

true
Branson says cast iron for castings, would prefer cast steel for sure, that way if anything does break or get damaged it can be welded with mig or even stick and 7018 versus brazed

not sure what other tractor makers are using.

JD using Aluminum for the rear housing on some smaller e series would be a non starter for me

 

[Industrial Toys]

Who knows what is what? But I have absolutely no doubt that all tractor castings are not created equal.

 

[ptsg]

Tractor manufacturers use either aluminium or cast iron for the housings.

Kukje/Branson used to be owned (before TYM bought them) by one of the biggest steel companies of Korea, Dongkuk Steel. If they were making bad/weak castings, I don't think they would be still in business. The tractors are built heavily like the old school tractors used to be and they did last forever.

 

[Texasmark]

Something may appear heavier made, but out of what? Is it made heavier to compensate for weaker material or material with poor quality control? Not saying, this is the case, just something to consider.

I can show you some photos of real steel and lots of it, gearboxes that are real cast iron..........If you are inclined to take the time to clear your mind before you engage your mouth.