D-Day

[ovrszd]

Our government has no qualms about sending our youth into battle before we consider them mature in society.

That is you.

 

[2LaneCruzer]

Allied dead at D. Day...approx 4,000. The figure I heard for U.S. dead was 800. Southern dead at Gettysburg, 3,900; Union approx 4,000.

 

[ovrszd]

Allied dead at D. Day...approx 4,000. The figure I heard for U.S. dead was 800. Southern dead at Gettysburg, 3,900; Union approx 4,000.

In my military studies it has been very apparent that technology has diminished casualties.

An excellent "read" about the Civil War is "Company Atch". Based on diary writings of a Confederate soldier.

We save a lot of lives with our technology. But we also remove ourselves from personal responsibility. We blame the government.

WWII was the last time our society went to war with our Soldiers.

 

[Molalla1]

I was an Infantry Squad Leader in Vietnam before I could vote or buy beer.....

Our society has no qualms about sending our youth into battle before we consider them mature in society.

I hear you overszd . . .

 

[bunyip]

I worked with a conscientious objector as my boss, he was at the time one of the students who spat on returning Vietnam Vets, it was an uncomfortable six months and he was always pushing his own agenda but pulled rank when I pointed out what a pathetic bastard he really was, I would wear my ribbons to work on appropriate days, he was not happy but I enjoyed watching him squirm.

 

[Sigarms]

That is you.

No, that IS the government.

As you said yourself, WW11 was the last time our society went to war with our Soldiers. I also believe the last time a joint resolution was passed stateing we as a people we're at war was during WW11.

 

[ovrszd]

No, that IS the government.

As you said yourself, WW11 was the last time our society went to war with our Soldiers. I also believe the last time a joint resolution was passed stateing we as a people we're at war was during WW11.

You are the government.

Militarily this would become very clear if we reinstated the draft. If you knew that when your kids turned 18 they would spend 2 or 3 years in the military your opinion about this would be very different.

This society needs mandatory service. We haven't had that for 48 years. Your generation knows nothing about it.

 

[riptides]

You are the government.

Militarily this would become very clear if we reinstated the draft. If you knew that when your kids turned 18 they would spend 2 or 3 years in the military your opinion about this would be very different.

This society needs mandatory service. We haven't had that for 48 years. Your generation knows nothing about it.

Ouch...if your going to do mandatory military service, you should give an option of civilian services too.

 

[Sigarms]

You are the government.

Militarily this would become very clear if we reinstated the draft. If you knew that when your kids turned 18 they would spend 2 or 3 years in the military your opinion about this would be very different.

This society needs mandatory service. We haven't had that for 48 years. Your generation knows nothing about it.

No, I've never experienced a military draft, although I did enlist when I turned 18.

My father on the other hand served 3 or so tours in SE Asia and he enlisted in 1952, and ironically enough, he was pissed when I told him I went into a combat arms MOS. Couldn't figure out why back then, have a better understanding now.

That said, what you and I have noted does NOT take away from the fact the last time our government actually delcared war as a nation, being WW11.

Apologies for getting thread off topic...

 

[buckeyefarmer]

The US was heavily involved in WW2 well before they declared war. It took Pearl Harbor before they would declare war. At that point, it's like stating the obvious.