Why are Kubota FEL's so weak?

[Oldoak]

I completely agree. I seldom run into anything that I can’t lift and when I am on the edge on weight/height capacity I worry more about stability side to side than lifting capacity. Lifting ratings down low are much higher than to full height.

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I see we are on the same "page" in more ways than one.

 

[SloppyJoe]

The fact is Kubota builds a great tractor but dropped the ball on the FEL on the L3901 series.

 

[JWR]

Why are there so many Kubota apologists? .... Sorry but thems the facts!

Well, the obvious answer is the Kubota is overall the better machine. Durability, long term reliability, number of users, etc. I could say "Why are there any Kioti apologists?" and that "Kioti is nothing but a Kubota wannabe" and there is a reason why they are cheaper...but I'd be kidding & baiting you.

Birds of a feather have their favorite machines that they are 'mostly' happy with and they like to chatter about the various aspects of ownership. Don't you have yours over on the Kioti forum ? Sure you do. Sorry but thems the facts!

 

[JWR]

This thread has a pretty catchy name for a thread title: "Why are Kubota FEL's so weak?". Every time I read it I can't help but chuckle with appreciation - it's a question in the same spirit of questions like, "Have you quit kicking your dog so much lately?". A kind of question that may not connect well with reality, but it earns a solid A+ on emotion.

But just so no newbie stumbles on this thread and thinks the original premise is factual, the "real facts" show that the FELs for all tractors are all more similar mechanically than their advertising departments would have you believe.

...........The thing to notice is how the lifting power curve is not at all a straight line; it varies a lot with the position of the load and the height of the lift. That gives plenty of rein to an advertising department bent on flogging their own brand.
rScotty

That is a really good chart on the loader. Notice they say nothing about torsion or twist resistance (and none of the manufacturers do.) The Nebraska tractor lab has nothing published on torsion that I can find either. Loaders get used for SO many things, whether appropriate or not, and a lot of people shopping for tractors see the loader as a very large part of their use and application. So there really should be specs on torsion. How much off center load will it handle producing how much angular deflection in the loader frame ? What is the max allowable ? What is the point of no return where a twist becomes a permanent disfigurement until repaired? It would be much improved insight into the tractor/loader capability to see those stats and to see them tested.

 

[k0ua]

That is a really good chart on the loader. Notice they say nothing about torsion or twist resistance (and none of the manufacturers do.) The Nebraska tractor lab has nothing published on torsion that I can find either. Loaders get used for SO many things, whether appropriate or not, and a lot of people shopping for tractors see the loader as a very large part of their use and application. So there really should be specs on torsion. How much off center load will it handle producing how much angular deflection in the loader frame ? What is the max allowable ? What is the point of no return where a twist becomes a permanent disfigurement until repaired? It would be much improved insight into the tractor/loader capability to see those stats and to see them tested.

I kinda doubt manufactures would want to publish something like that. I believe tractor/loader sales is dog eat dog, and manufactures would just as soon you didn't really have tools to make too detailed of a comparison.

 

[SloppyJoe]

I could have bought a Kubota L3901 however I thought it was a weaker tractor compared to some of the others in the FEL area.

 

[JWR]

I'm so sensitive I just can't take it any more. I guess I'll just have to become an apologist for Kioti.

 

[buckeyefarmer]

I didn't mean to hurt your feelings JWR (obviously you are very sensitive) but I could have bought a Kubota L3901 however I thought it was a weaker tractor compared to some of the others in the FEL area. I see you have a couple of B and BXs. I think that the BX is probably a better tractor than the Kioti CS BUT just because it says KIOTI or KUBOTA on the side doesn't make it the best. You might want to reread my original post again. It discussed the L3901 vs its competition in the FEL area, not "MINE IS BETTER THAN YOURS". Wipe your tears, get Momma to change your diaper and get your favorite Kubota t shirt on and go get em' Cowboy!

This is just an uncalled for response on TBN. Shame on you.

 

[SloppyJoe]

This is just an uncalled for response on TBN. Shame on you.

Oh Brother, I guess your feelings are hurt too.

 

[buckeyefarmer]

Oh Brother, I guess your feelings are hurt too.

Just calling out a rude response. No need to be a bully by putting people down.