GC2410 Quit While Running, No Juice to Start

[DJRussell]

MG

I just checked my fuse panel, and you are correct, my fuses are 5, 10 and 15 amps for the smaller group. It was actually a 10 amp fuse that blew.

 

[mgstevens]

MG

I just checked my fuse panel, and you are correct, my fuses are 5, 10 and 15 amps for the smaller group. It was actually a 10 amp fuse that blew.

Cool. Any chance you (or anyone else) knows how to locate the connector for the neutral safety switch? The manual cites it as a potential cause of my remaining issue - no start - but I can't even trace the harness through the maze of linkages beneath the seat/fuel tank/body. Absolutely no info about it online. The manual says "see dealer" for that issue, and I'm beginning to see why.

Unlike the other two safety switches, this one is four wire versus two. Not even sure it can be continuity tested. Must try...

This machine has lots of work to do.

 

[mgstevens]

FULLY SOLVED! Not by any genius on my part, but a chance placement of the neutral switch swing arm. I had been trying to locate the harness, to absolutely NO avail, when I decided to give up on that path. Before re-mounting the switch, I gave the swing arm a twist and tried the key. The reason I did that, was that earlier, when moving the arm back and forth and trying to start, there was a single click. It didn't seem to solve the problem, but it was something besides dead.

I wanted to hear that click again to see if it would lead me on another solution path. In the effort to place the switch arm in the place to get the click to happen, I hit the sweet spot and it started!

I needed to mount the switch, so I had to turn the engine off. I mounted it and tried again, having tied the arm all the way down. No go. Then I released the arm and again tried different placements until it started again. It was then I *realized* the error of my thinking. The neutral switch is meant to work in the central neutral position of the gear handle. Either end of its travel is a cut-off position.

Thinking is hard. :ashamed: Good thing it worked out, my wife was beginning to call the tractor a lawn ornament.

 

[thclimer]

FULLY SOLVED! Not by any genius on my part, but a chance placement of the neutral switch swing arm. I had been trying to locate the harness, to absolutely NO avail, when I decided to give up on that path. Before re-mounting the switch, I gave the swing arm a twist and tried the key. The reason I did that, was that earlier, when moving the arm back and forth and trying to start, there was a single click. It didn't seem to solve the problem, but it was something besides dead.

I wanted to hear that click again to see if it would lead me on another solution path. In the effort to place the switch arm in the place to get the click to happen, I hit the sweet spot and it started!

I needed to mount the switch, so I had to turn the engine off. I mounted it and tried again, having tied the arm all the way down. No go. Then I released the arm and again tried different placements until it started again. It was then I *realized* the error of my thinking. The neutral switch is meant to work in the central neutral position of the gear handle. Either end of its travel is a cut-off position.

Thinking is hard. :ashamed: Good thing it worked out, my wife was beginning to call the tractor a lawn ornament.

Congratulations on your troubleshooting and the ultimate fix!

 

[irvingj]

Yay! Now go celebrate...

For relatively "simple" machines, the electrics on these things can be exasperatingly difficult. Glad you got it fixed, and now you know a lot more about your workhorse, always a good thing!

 

[ray66v]

For relatively "simple" machines, the electrics on these things can be exasperatingly difficult.

Ever troubleshoot an electrical issue on a BMW? :confused2:

 

[mgstevens]

Yay! Now go celebrate...

For relatively "simple" machines, the electrics on these things can be exasperatingly difficult. Glad you got it fixed, and now you know a lot more about your workhorse, always a good thing!

It's true! In the middle of this I knew I was getting far more acquainted with the safety cutoff system than I would have otherwise, but when I got the tractor and saw the two safety switches tied off, I knew one day I would need to address the system and its jury-rigging. As my wife said: "Better in July than January."

I'd like to celebrate, but there are piles of topsoil and gravel awaiting their final resting places. The unsurprising thing is that I absolutely LOVE this machine. Like my last tractor, it took some time to get it in tip-top operating condition. I must say, the electrical schematic is a very good thing to have. It was the star of the show in this case.

 

[irvingj]

No, Ray, but it can't be any worse than our Sprinter-based RV! ullinghair::banghead:

 

[cdaigle430]

Ever troubleshoot an electrical issue on a BMW? :confused2:

My troubleshooting is yup-doesnt work. Call dealer make an appointment and open wallet.:ashamed: Thats exactly what I had to to with my wifes BMW last month when the brake lights stopped working. Was actually a fuse but this IT guy aint no BMW mechanic LOL.
Was fixed for free because they did when the replaced the led in the taillight.

 

[ray66v]

You look at the incredible complexity BMW puts into their systems, and you have to wonder if they are just doing it to mess with people.

Why do I say that? Because, much of it seems completely unnecessary. And, they do drive us crazy.