Blue Barrel Culvert Idea, Is it Crazy?

   / Blue Barrel Culvert Idea, Is it Crazy? #11  
I recall seeing somewhere that the ribbed exterior of real culvert pipe serves the purpose of preventing water from washing alongside the pipe and messing up the installation.
 
   / Blue Barrel Culvert Idea, Is it Crazy?
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Thank for the replies. Like i said i'm just mulling over the idea, I have not set on any for sure fix yet but a standard double wall culvert or three. I have considered a bridge but by the time i construct that i would also have a lot of money in it being that it would be at least 12ft long and 75ft wide. that gives about 4ft on each side of the ditch for support of the structure. I do also understand the strength of the barrels comes from the two ends and yes, cutting the rings off the ends would severely weaken the overall barrel. guy down the road from me put in a whole bunch of large truck tires placed end to end and screwed together several years ago. he probably used 350 tires to make a culvert and then back filled and has been great since. I just think those would be more prone to clogs than the barrels but is has worked for him for about 15 years now Lucky, Maybe? i am just looking at options plastic culvert in my neck of the woods is around $800-1000 depending if you get double wall or single and they are 20ft sections which means i would need at least 3 of them and just be short.
 
   / Blue Barrel Culvert Idea, Is it Crazy? #13  
Thank for the replies. Like i said i'm just mulling over the idea, I have not set on any for sure fix yet but a standard double wall culvert or three. I have considered a bridge but by the time i construct that i would also have a lot of money in it being that it would be at least 12ft long and 75ft wide. that gives about 4ft on each side of the ditch for support of the structure. I do also understand the strength of the barrels comes from the two ends and yes, cutting the rings off the ends would severely weaken the overall barrel. guy down the road from me put in a whole bunch of large truck tires placed end to end and screwed together several years ago. he probably used 350 tires to make a culvert and then back filled and has been great since. I just think those would be more prone to clogs than the barrels but is has worked for him for about 15 years now Lucky, Maybe? i am just looking at options plastic culvert in my neck of the woods is around $800-1000 depending if you get double wall or single and they are 20ft sections which means i would need at least 3 of them and just be short.

what is your reason for wanting to tile the ENTIRE 75' ditch, are you trying to access the other side?
 
   / Blue Barrel Culvert Idea, Is it Crazy? #14  
Proper culvert is only solution (ribbed black plastic)...Half baked ideas are ok for others, but i find for me it only causes me grief down the road a bit when it fails from lack of structural strength or poor concept or not really thinking project through, or not listening to people with better grasp on concepts (issue may be who has better concept)...

Dale
 
   / Blue Barrel Culvert Idea, Is it Crazy? #15  
My concern - the weight of a heavy piece of equipment or tractor would cause the barrels to collapse. Possibly causing a tractor to tip over on its side. I have three blue plastic barrels. All three have the tops cut off. They are very weak - even with the bottoms still intact. Cut off the bottoms - they are nothing as far as strength.
 
   / Blue Barrel Culvert Idea, Is it Crazy? #16  
Thank for the replies. Like i said i'm just mulling over the idea, I have not set on any for sure fix yet but a standard double wall culvert or three. I have considered a bridge but by the time i construct that i would also have a lot of money in it being that it would be at least 12ft long and 75ft wide. that gives about 4ft on each side of the ditch for support of the structure. I do also understand the strength of the barrels comes from the two ends and yes, cutting the rings off the ends would severely weaken the overall barrel. guy down the road from me put in a whole bunch of large truck tires placed end to end and screwed together several years ago. he probably used 350 tires to make a culvert and then back filled and has been great since. I just think those would be more prone to clogs than the barrels but is has worked for him for about 15 years now Lucky, Maybe? i am just looking at options plastic culvert in my neck of the woods is around $800-1000 depending if you get double wall or single and they are 20ft sections which means i would need at least 3 of them and just be short.

Why would it be 75ft long, it is no longer a bridge, its a covered drain..... A bridge is usually a limited width to accomodate live stock, vechicle or foot traffic... I would go with most reliable option of ribbed culvert and proper splices....You willing tp crawl into it to remove clog if somethink gets caught on funky splice or collapse of blue barrel design....

Dale
 
   / Blue Barrel Culvert Idea, Is it Crazy? #17  
I recall seeing somewhere that the ribbed exterior of real culvert pipe serves the purpose of preventing water from washing alongside the pipe and messing up the installation.

The corrugation is for strength. It actually adds to the possibility of washing alongside the pipe on the outside. To minimize this a seep collar is often used. The corrugation also slows water flow on the inside.
 
   / Blue Barrel Culvert Idea, Is it Crazy? #18  
The corrugation is for strength. It actually adds to the possibility of washing alongside the pipe on the outside. To minimize this a seep collar is often used. The corrugation also slows water flow on the inside.

:thumbsup::thumbsup::):D

The angle of repose, Backfill placement, compaction and coverage depth over a culvert also are related to its strength.
 
   / Blue Barrel Culvert Idea, Is it Crazy? #19  
The corrugation also slows water flow on the inside.

I installed three types of culverts last year,,
12" single wall
12" double wall
15" double wall

The single wall lets water pass,, but, not quickly, the corrugations slow the water flow.

The 12 and 15 inch double wall are smooth inside, water coming out looks like it is being moved by a pump,,,
I have three of the 12" double wall culverts, and one 15" double wall, each are 30 or 40 feet long.
the outlet is at least one foot below the inlet.

I suffered with driveway washing for 40 years,, these culverts eliminated the washing 100%

Within one more year, I will have saved the cost of the culverts in driveway gravel I have not had to buy,,
The last two years have been the wettest on record for this area,, the culverts really helped,,,
 
   / Blue Barrel Culvert Idea, Is it Crazy? #20  
I would not do this. The savings in buying barrels compared to the culvert might be significant now, but they will not last and you will be back to doing it again and again with barrels, or eventually spending the money to do it right with a culvert.

Do you have that much water flowing that you need 36inchs? That's a massive amount of water and if you ever get a quarter of the volume through there, the barrels will wash out.

Sometimes its cheaper to just wait and keep saving until you have enough to do it right the first time.
 

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