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   / No flipping tractor #11  
Read this:
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A big factor is "center of gravity" (COG). The lower the better. Add weight below COG, lowers COG for more stability, adding weight, or raising FEL above COG decreases stability.
So when brush hogging, having mower hanging (low) on 3 PTH lowers COG than if mower is floating on ground.

Keep FEL low!

The wider the better, set tires (if adjustable) as wide as possible, or look into "Wheel spacers" for making rear tires wider apart.

Filling (partially) tires with fluid lowers COG.
The article you link to does not work for me. Can you point me to it another way?

Thanks
 
   / No flipping tractor #12  
The article you link to does not work for me. Can you point me to it another way?

Thanks

If you go to the link in Post #10, it's the same information.
That website there has the download (.pdf ) that I posted (that doesn't work).
 
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Dealer said he could flip tires to provide wider base. This a good idea?
 
   / No flipping tractor #14  
Use your 4WD and don稚 drive across the slope. Drive up and down the slope in 4WD and you値l be safe.
there you go right there, good advice!. I've seen mowing done on banks nearly vertical!. they have the tractor on the flat road, and use a hydraulically driven mower on an outrigger!.
 
   / No flipping tractor #15  
Dealer said he could flip tires to provide wider base. This a good idea?

Yes, for stability.
Some tractor rims are separate/ detachable and offset from the center dish of the rim, so not only does moving wheel from one side to side take advantage of this offset for greater width, but you can also change how the center dish mounts to the outer rim for added total width.
 
   / No flipping tractor #16  
Read this:
View attachment 615533

A big factor is "center of gravity" (COG). The lower the better. Add weight below COG, lowers COG for more stability, adding weight, or raising FEL above COG decreases stability.
So when brush hogging, having mower hanging (low) on 3 PTH lowers COG than if mower is floating on ground.

Keep FEL low!

The wider the better, set tires (if adjustable) as wide as possible, or look into "Wheel spacers" for making rear tires wider apart.

Filling (partially) tires with fluid lowers COG.

Not sure I agree with the brush cutting part. Lifting the cutter just off the ground does lower the cog of the tractor itself, but that痴 ignoring the combined cog of the tractor, cutter combination. The cutter on the ground would resist the overturning of the tractor, with variance depending on linkage play. Raising the cutter also is a canterlever force on the rear axle, which adds instability. I say it痴 too complex with too many variables to say one way or the other.
 
   / No flipping tractor #17  
Ag tires and rims usually have the ability to flip the rims and the inner wheel to get a wide spacing. Also Ags could be better as they don't slip as much off road in most situations. I suppose turf tires could be better on mowed slopes but I think Ags are the best compromise.
 
   / No flipping tractor #18  
Widening them helps the stability but doesn't make them invincible. I've had the rears off the ground more times on my 3301 in the last two years than I ever did using the same implements with my 275, which was lighter; if I keep it, I may even load the tires, which I would never even have considered before.
 
   / No flipping tractor #19  
Not sure I agree with the brush cutting part. Lifting the cutter just off the ground does lower the cog of the tractor itself, but that痴 ignoring the combined cog of the tractor, cutter combination. The cutter on the ground would resist the overturning of the tractor, with variance depending on linkage play. Raising the cutter also is a canterlever force on the rear axle, which adds instability. I say it痴 too complex with too many variables to say one way or the other.

One thing about raising it and being a counterlever force on rear axle is now more of combined weight is on sidewall on rear tires. More on downhill side. Probably increases chances of sliding than if weight is distributed on front.
 
   / No flipping tractor #20  
One thing not mentioned is dew/wet conditions. I have one hill (not very steep, never feels like the tractor will roll), that if there is any dew/wet grass the rear of the tractor will slide a little. It took only one pass for me to only mow it when it was bone dry. Even though the tractor only slid a little, the mowing can and will wait for better conditions.
 

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