Popular mythconceptions

[4570Man]

You got that right. Ask 10 people 'not in the trades' what are the dimensions of a 2x4. My bet you won't get more than one with the right answer. Most will probably look at you and question your sanity.

I’ve had some ancient ones that actually were 2x4. I’ve had some other ones that were 1-5/8-3-5/8.

 

[Diggin It]

Wasn't there a thread or post not long ago claiming that the standard size has changed a few times and may not be what many remember?

 

[4570Man]

I’ve never seen anything except the standard 1.5x3.5 in anything built since at least the 80s. Probably the 70s. Past that and there’s a lot of rough saw stuff. I don’t know what era the 5/8 oddball stuff was but it was surfaced. The corners were square not rounded like the newer stuff.

 

[Diggin It]

Now see, I consider he 1/8" stuff to be standard and the 1/2" stuff oddball.

I'll guess the rounded corner stuff was the insurance companies and sliver hazard issues.

 

[4570Man]

Now see, I consider he 1/8" stuff to be standard and the 1/2" stuff oddball.

I'll guess the rounded corner stuff was the insurance companies and sliver hazard issues.

1/8 stuff? Now I’m lost.

 

[lilranch2001]

You got that right. Ask 10 people 'not in the trades' what are the dimensions of a 2x4. My bet you won't get more than one with the right answer. Most will probably look at you and question your sanity.

You guys must hang out with more idiots than I do......

 

[dragoneggs]

You guys must hang out with more idiots than I do......

It’s all relative

 

[KennyG]

I'm so old I grew up using the 1-5/8 x 3-5/8. The math is easier now.

 

[check]

If left unconnected all lead acid batteries will lose up to 1% of their charge per day...it doesn't matter where or on what the battery is sitting...
Once a l/a battery loses 50% of it's charge it has likely suffered some permanent damage and even if it was new it will not take or hold as full of a charge it did before the 50% loss...

The misconception is sitting on the concrete or the ground...it does not matter...if left for a long enough period even a brand new battery fully charged will be ruined over time...

So that means the battery will be ruined after only 50 days of storage? I find it kind of hard to believe.

 

[the old grind]

So that means the battery will be ruined after only 50 days of storage? I find it kind of hard to believe.

It's all relative

Not ruined, but like a battery we 'desulfate' the damage will be seen as a shorter life, vs merely in its ability to start a vehicle for which it was intended to have considerable 'reserve capacity' to function longer as it ages. Ergo, lots of week-long sits is why nothing else in the barn/garage lasts like the battery in our daily driver.

What /pine said: no battery sits overnight w/o self-discharging some. SLA/AGM batteries do so at the lowest rate of 'wet' batteries. This only adds to their luster. (esp if you're starting an 80 inch twin with a puny-a__ 16 Ah OEM size. I miss the kicker, but don't have to push start my elec/only bike now.)

btw, while at Ft Devens, my TR-4's starter came apart & I got tired of push starting it. I parked it with friends in up in Nashua and drove the TR-3. The charging system or battery showed weakness right way as I was packing for PCS and I pushed started that car until till it was stolen 6 mos later while at Ft Sill.

IIRC, the time of 1 5/8" by 3 5/8" lumber production was post-war. The rounding of corners might have begun during that period. ('50s-ish) Some of that old, dry pine & fir lumber is almost like oak. It can be machined like aluminum or Nylon. I've drilled and tapped these from 10-24 to 3/8 x 24 in 'jig & fixture' or prototyping work. Torx bits can shatter on wood screws just from undersized pilot holes.