Battery based electric vehicles of today and tomorrow.

[3930dave]

Consider what happens when China becomes the leading country and we become the cheap labour manufacturer?

So that means our jobs are coming back ?

Definitely an economic disruption coming with the EV wave.

HV batteries are expensive to replace and you'll need a whole new generation of (thin-on-the-ground) "mechanics" to properly diagnose EV wiring faults (here in the Salt belt esp.).

In that ^ respect, service-wise, they are more so Bic lighters compared to ICE cars.

Rgds, D.

 

[Egon]

Egon there is nothing cheap when it comes to labor in the USA and China knows this.

Kenya holds third highest Chinese debt in Africa - Capital Business

As you can read China is in the process of owning control of Africa though debt that is mainly to build infrastructure so China can move their manufacturing to third world countries as they move into the role of the most powerful nation. Interesting Musk of Tesla hails from South Africa by way of Canada and Tesla is the only car maker operating in China that is not in part owned by Chinese as I have read. When China becomes the main source of Tesla vehicles for the rest of the world it will just put them in a better position for world power especially if Musk moves his space ambitions development to China like he has done with Tesla.

Today’s scenario but will it hold for the future?

 

[Gale Hawkins]

A couple of news articles that I read this morning. Of course better batteries are of interest to all readers. The Nissan Leaf is about the only used EV's I can find in about a 200 mile radius so the Gen 1 and Gen 2 Leaf owner story was very much of interest since that most likely will be the first EV I will own.

New Electrolyte Improves Cycle Life of Next-Generation Lithium-Ion Batteries


A long weekend away in the new electric Nissan Leaf | The Driven

 

[Gale Hawkins]

Today’s scenario but will it hold for the future?

NO

 

[Jstpssng]

Consider what happens when China becomes the leading country and we become the cheap labour manufacturer?

You're preaching to the choir here. I'm still stupid enough to buy the real thing and pay twice what the Chinese clone costs... one reason why I'll never have the money that others do. (Another reason is that I believe in paying taxes on all of my income... making me double stupid.)

 

[5030]

You're preaching to the choir here. I'm still stupid enough to buy the real thing and pay twice what the Chinese clone costs... one reason why I'll never have the money that others do. (Another reason is that I believe in paying taxes on all of my income... making me double stupid.)

Spoken like a true Mainer....

I have my own opinion of electric vehicles but I won't post it here. Suffice to say that if an electric farm tractor ever comes about, I may buy one, but then again, probably not.

 

[Grumpycat]

As long as China holds all the rare earth metals needed to build lithium batteries...we (the US) should not go all in on electric battery based tech. We would be giving up our energy independence.

That is not moving forward.

Actually the USA has more rare earth minerals (which are not really rare at all) than China. Is just that idiots shut down our refining operations when surrendering to China. Hopefully our days of surrender are over.

 

[Gale Hawkins]

Monday I drove 200 miles to look at my first EV and got home with it at 11pm that night. It is a 2016 Nissan Leaf SL. I wanted the 4 camera system for parking lots since I have no head rotation due to the Ankylosing Spondylitis for 40 years. Now I can see curbs, lines, etc on each side plus front and rear position of the car. The regen braking is awesome because it is like pouring gas into the tank instead of using the brakes. I am not going back to the old way if I can help it after putting my money where my mouth was.

The link below may be behind a pay wall for some because I got the message I had one free article left. I think like a few are free each month. We are so far behind China and Europe when it comes to EV's.

China Charges Ahead of U.S. in Building Pumps for Electric Cars

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

 

[shooterdon]

Gale,
Interesting article.

Good luck with your Leaf!

 

[Gale Hawkins]

Thanks shooterdon. I learn better at hands on training. I keep hearing we are all going to be driving EV's so being on the slow side I knew I needed a head start. I did not know how dumb I was until I got my Smart Phone.

I did wait for the 2016 because that was the first year they went from the 24 kwh to 30 kwh batteries that pushed range over 100 miles per charge. I really like the four camera system since I can not turn my head. Now when parking I can see the curbs and white lines. The power and smoothness are awesome and it handles so well.

Maybe my ship will come in so I can look at the new Nissan EV's built from ground up as a EV platform due out in 2021 that are offer a range of 300 miles, 0-60 MPH in 5 seconds and autonomous interstate driving.