goeduck
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Lots of people buy diesels that do not need them given the power modern gas engines put out and in many cases have greater reliability than diesel.
Newer 3/4 ton advice?
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Lots of people buy diesels that do not need them given the power modern gas engines put out and in many cases have greater reliability than diesel.
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I have to agree there. I had the opportunity to get a diesel in 2012 and really just wanted to have one. The CTD had incredible power pulling but did I need it, nope. Sure was nice towing my mini ex home 500 miles but I'm sure a gas motor would have done it, maybe not quite as fast but it would have been fine. The diesel was fun to own but expensive and the much higher cost of diesel over gas here never allow me any savings in fuel costs. This weekend I had around 2500lbs in the bed on the new truck and it hauled it extremely well. Honestly other than having a better than normal ride you really didn't notice the weight much. The lighter gas engine also allowed the payload to increase so that has been a nice benefit as well.
Snobdds
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Where I live, 6500 feet, normal physics that states there is no replacement for displacement is wrong. At altitude the saying goes, the replacement for displacement is turbo PSI.
Gas trucks are dogs up here, they run out of air long before they run out of rpms or fuel. We only drive diesels and now ecoboosts. I have both and will never own another naturally aspirated truck again, I waited years for an OEM to produce a gas engine that has turbos.
And I don't care how much diesels trucks cost, when you need them, you need them.
Gas trucks are dogs up here, they run out of air long before they run out of rpms or fuel. We only drive diesels and now ecoboosts. I have both and will never own another naturally aspirated truck again, I waited years for an OEM to produce a gas engine that has turbos.
And I don't care how much diesels trucks cost, when you need them, you need them.
Thanks, for your post. Can you give any insight as to what elevation the diesel becomes necessary, based on your experience?
I live near Denver at 6,000' or so. That's a 20% HP loss from somebody at sea level due to lack of oxygen. My L4060 up here probably is equivalent to a L3560 at sea level. I wish it was turbocharged or I'd gotten a bigger engine at times (I dont regret the L4060 though & it fit my budget).
I cant answer your exact question, but adequate HP for you guys down low is often a bit lacking up here. A turbo mitigates the altitude a bit, but not completely.
Snobdds
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I sure can...
Anything above 1ft in elevation above sea level requires a diesel, based upon my experience.
Good day...
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And below, with a snorkel too.
Okay....typically, when I get an F U, they include the reason why.
Snobdds
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I also don't answer such convoluted questions either.
I mean, really, what elevation does it make sense? I don't know, that's a personal opinion and I gave you mine.
However, mathematically speaking...there is a 3.6xxx% loss of power/1000 feet. So I am 23.4% under powered at each RPM level.
300Hp - 229HP at elevation
500 Ft/lbs - 383 at elevation.
Where the diesel or turbo charged gas might give up <1% at elevation. After all an engine is just an air pump.
goeduck
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So If I drive on the beach, I am okay with gas?
