Tractor Sizing What horsepower and or weight tractor is enough

   / What horsepower and or weight tractor is enough #11  
You should be able to get into a 35 hp tractor for under 20 k, No problem around here.
 
   / What horsepower and or weight tractor is enough #12  
From one that bought twice cried twice, get one with the weight for ground engagement as first consideration.
The HP will most likely be higher anyways.
Learned the hard way, weight equals placing torque work to the ground.
It's embarrassing when a 2" root makes all four wheels spins with machine at full PTO rpm.
Well it was a four foot deep huisache root, but hey it's just a lil 2" diameter root how tough could it be....lol....
So weight then H.P. good luck, buy once cry once. Hopes this homework you"re doing pays off for yah.
 
   / What horsepower and or weight tractor is enough #13  
HEY JEFF!!!! Where's Jeff?? This thread is right up his alley!!!! :D
 
   / What horsepower and or weight tractor is enough #14  
Back in the market. Have 8 acres of uneven and some areas rough hard as **** dirt. Discing, ripping, scraping, leveling out a few areas and moving dirt around. Building some width to an existing driveway among other small farming stuff.

Not sure how much tractor I知 gonna need. Don稚 want to go too small and beat the thing to death. Ive seen lighter weight compacts with higher horsepower and heavier weights with less hp. I致e got access where I知 located to pretty much all brands and have looked at several but I知 stuck.

Wait a minute here.....You own a JD 1070, and are looking for a good small tractor for 8 acres??
It doesn't sound like you will have to go far to find one. 1070s are hard to beat & known for long-lasting quality.
38 HP, fairly heavy construction, syncro tranny. Lifts a ton at either end, AND it has a classic engine without emissions devices.
rScotty
 
   / What horsepower and or weight tractor is enough #15  
Wait a minute here.....You own a JD 1070, and are looking for a good small tractor for 8 acres??
It doesn't sound like you will have to go far to find one. 1070s are hard to beat & known for long-lasting quality.
38 HP, fairly heavy construction, syncro tranny. Lifts a ton at either end, AND it has a classic engine without emissions devices.
rScotty
I didn稚 catch that he had a 1070. It won稚 cost much either. :)
 
   / What horsepower and or weight tractor is enough #16  
Have 8 acres of uneven and some areas rough hard as **** dirt. Discing, ripping, scraping, leveling out a few areas and moving dirt around. Building some width to an existing driveway among other small farming stuff.

Discing, ripping, and leveling moving dirt around will be the most use until itç—´ maintainable. Rototilling some smaller areas and of course lots of mowing.

As your ground is HARD plow it as the first step. A Moldboard Plow will loosen the soil for leveling and bring up micro-nutreints and incorporate them into top soil. You can buy a plow or have your eight acres plowed on contract. Ripping should not be necessary if you plow.

Disc Harrowing is the next step after plowing. Disc Harrow will knock down the deep plow furrows and commence leveling the ground. For use behind a 4-WD Deere 1070 I recommend a Disc with 20" diameter pans and a width of 84".

In the southern half of USA few would plow more often than once every ten years.
An ADEQUATELY HEAVY Disc Harrow is useful for soil preparation throughout the year.


Few with Disc Harrows adjust them after putting them to use. If you first process the field two or three times (depending on the weight bearing on each of your disc pans) to loosen ridges, then adjust gang angles less aggressively in increments, the disc may meet your leveling needs solo. (In your situation, plow first.)

Moist soil will make your project go faster.

Adjust Top Link to vary disc weight distribution. Shorter = more weight on front gangs. Longer = more weight on rear gangs.

More weight on front disc gangs throws dirt OUT. Run down ridges.

More weight on rear/wider disc gangs gathers dirt IN. Straddle the swales.

The faster you disc the more dirt is moved.

As the field is smoothed, adjusted disc gang angles to progressively less aggressive angles.

As the field is smoothed, adjust Position Control so disc is in lighter contact with the soil.


Disc Harrows and PTO powered Rototillers are both soil mixers. No need to have both.
For the tasks you have enumerated, less PTO-rototilling, tractor weight should be your first consideration.



A 4-WD Deere 1070 equipped with a Loader bucket and bucket toothbar should be ample for the tasks you have enumerated.

John Deere 1070

1989 - 1998 70 Compact Series
Compact Utility tractor
Previous model: John Deere 1050
Next model: John Deere 4600
Series back: John Deere 970

Distributor: John Deere
Manufacturer: Yanmar
Factory: Japan
Original price (USD)
$18,000 (1998 )

John Deere 1070 Engine:
Yanmar 1.9L 4-cyl diesel
John Deere 1070 Power:
Engine (gross): 38.5 hp [28.7 kW]
Engine (net): 35 hp [26.1 kW]
PTO (claimed): 35 hp [26.1 kW]

Capacity:
Fuel: 10.6 gal [40.1 L]
Hydraulic system: 5.5 gal [20.8 L]
Front axle: 8.5 qts [8.0 L]

3-Point Hitch:
Rear Type: I
Control: load and depth control
Rear lift (at 24"/610mm): 2020 lbs [916 kg]

Power Take-off (PTO):
Rear PTO: live*
Rear RPM: 540
Mid RPM: 2100

Dimensions:
Wheelbase: 68.9 inches [175 cm]
2WD Weight (operating): 2980 lbs [1351 kg]
4WD Weight (operating): 3265 lbs [1481 kg]
Wheelbase: 68.9 inches [175 cm]
Length: 123 inches [312 cm]
Width: 64.8 inches [164 cm]

Weight: 2980 to 3265 pounds

Mechanical:
Chassis: 4x2 2WD
4x4 MFWD 4WD
Final drives: planetary
Differential lock: foot-activated standard
Steering: power
Brakes: differential wet disc
Two-post ROPS. Canopy optional.

Page information:
Last update: October 12, 2018
Copyright: Copyright 2018 TractorData LLC
Contact: Peter@TractorData.com
 
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   / What horsepower and or weight tractor is enough
  • Thread Starter
#18  
Wait a minute here.....You own a JD 1070, and are looking for a good small tractor for 8 acres??
It doesn't sound like you will have to go far to find one. 1070s are hard to beat & known for long-lasting quality.
38 HP, fairly heavy construction, syncro tranny. Lifts a ton at either end, AND it has a classic engine without emissions devices.
rScotty

not anymore. Rebuilt the motor and the mechanic finally fix all the other little issues and i sold it. It was bad juju with the whole situation. That tractor wouldve haunted me forever.
 
   / What horsepower and or weight tractor is enough
  • Thread Starter
#19  
As your ground is HARD plow it as the first step. A Moldboard Plow will loosen the soil for leveling and bring up micro-nutreints and incorporate them into top soil. You can buy a plow or have your eight acres plowed on contract. Ripping should not be necessary if you plow.

Disc Harrowing is the next step after plowing. Disc Harrow will knock down the deep plow furrows and commence leveling the ground. For use behind a 4-WD Deere 1070 I recommend a Disc with 20" diameter pans and a width of 84".

In the southern half of USA few would plow more often than once every ten years. An ADEQUATELY HEAVY Disc Harrow is used for basic soil preparation throughout the year.


Few with Disc Harrows adjust them after putting them to use. If you first process the field two or three times (depending on the weight bearing on each of your disc pans) to loosen ridges, then adjust gang angles less aggressively in increments, the disc may meet your leveling needs solo.

Moist soil will make your project go faster.

Adjust Top Link to vary disc weight distribution. Shorter = more weight on front gangs. Longer = more weight on rear gangs.

More weight on front disc gangs throws dirt OUT. Run down ridges.

More weight on rear/wider disc gangs gathers dirt IN. Straddle the swales.

The faster you disc the more dirt is moved.

As the field is smoothed, adjust Position Control so disc is in lighter contact with the soil.
As the field is smoothed, adjusted disc gang angles to progressively less aggressive angles.



Disc Harrows and PTO powered Rototillers are both soil mixers. No need to have both.
For the tasks you have enumerated, less PTO-rototilling, tractor weight should be your first consideration.



A 4-WD Deere 1070 equipped with a Loader bucket and bucket toothbar should be ample for the tasks you have enumerated.

John Deere 1070

1989 - 1998 70 Compact Series
Compact Utility tractor
Previous model: John Deere 1050
Next model: John Deere 4600
Series back: John Deere 970

Distributor: John Deere
Manufacturer: Yanmar
Factory: Japan
Original price (USD)
$18,000 (1998 )

John Deere 1070 Engine:
Yanmar 1.9L 4-cyl diesel
John Deere 1070 Power:
Engine (gross): 38.5 hp [28.7 kW]
Engine (net): 35 hp [26.1 kW]
PTO (claimed): 35 hp [26.1 kW]

Capacity:
Fuel: 10.6 gal [40.1 L]
Hydraulic system: 5.5 gal [20.8 L]
Front axle: 8.5 qts [8.0 L]

3-Point Hitch:
Rear Type: I
Control: load and depth control
Rear lift (at 24"/610mm): 2020 lbs [916 kg]

Power Take-off (PTO):
Rear PTO: live*
Rear RPM: 540
Mid RPM: 2100

Dimensions:
Wheelbase: 68.9 inches [175 cm]
2WD Weight (operating): 2980 lbs [1351 kg]
4WD Weight (operating): 3265 lbs [1481 kg]
Wheelbase: 68.9 inches [175 cm]
Length: 123 inches [312 cm]
Width: 64.8 inches [164 cm]

Weight: 2980 to 3265 pounds

Mechanical:
Chassis: 4x2 2WD
4x4 MFWD 4WD
Final drives: planetary
Differential lock: foot-activated standard
Steering: power
Brakes: differential wet disc
Two-post ROPS. Canopy optional.

Page information:
Last update: October 12, 2018
Copyright: Copyright 2018 TractorData LLC
Contact: Peter@TractorData.com

Thank you for that advice. Im in the Central Valley of Kalifornia near Fresno.

So, weight consideration seems first. Someone mentioned 5-6000lbs. That much weight of a tractor is out of my price range. The larger compacts ive been looking at IIRC are around 3-3500lbs. based on what the papers said.

Will mid 30's Hp with mid to high 20's pto on a heavier chassis do the job or should i be looking a little bigger? I dont want to cry twice like wiley kioti did. :)
 
   / What horsepower and or weight tractor is enough
  • Thread Starter
#20  
From one that bought twice cried twice, get one with the weight for ground engagement as first consideration.
The HP will most likely be higher anyways.
Learned the hard way, weight equals placing torque work to the ground.
It's embarrassing when a 2" root makes all four wheels spins with machine at full PTO rpm.
Well it was a four foot deep huisache root, but hey it's just a lil 2" diameter root how tough could it be....lol....
So weight then H.P. good luck, buy once cry once. Hopes this homework you"re doing pays off for yah.

:thumbsup:
 

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