4815 C Available

[K5lwq]

The rear remotes on my 4720ch are really disappointing too because of the linkage. I don't know if it just my tractor, but they are hard to push, and almost impossible to feather or find center. I'd love to try something else. I'm not sure what I could do different. though.

Do you think the linkage geometry is off or is it just to tight? I would think the valve spools would be spring to center. I have not driven any of the Bransons yet but plan to soon. I did get in the cabs but did not move any of the remotes.

Eric's post above indicated that his linkage was loose. Maybe some adjusting or lubricating would help?

 

[ptsg]

The remote linkage for the Cab vs Rops is different.

I have a ROPS model and I can say that l really like the linkage for the remotes. I can easily feather the valve without any kind of binding of fussing around.

On the Cab versions, I believe the extra linkage to put the levers on a better spot for the operation is creating some issues.

 

[K5lwq]

ptsg,
I actually was thinking I liked mechanical linkage better than a cable system. Maybe on cab versions cables would be better?

 

[LouNY]

The older 8050 is cable operated, don't know about the others.

 

[ptsg]

ptsg,
I actually was thinking I liked mechanical linkage better than a cable system. Maybe on cab versions cables would be better?

I don't have a parts manual for Cab model of the 15 series.

So from a parts manual for the 3725 Cab model, they use the mechanical linkage like the ROPS model, but then, where the ROPS model just have a lever, they change to a cable up to the cab using a weird geometry to the linkage. My theory is that messes up the leverage to the mechanical linkage, thus making somewhat difficult to operate. I've never tried one my self though. They should went with cable straight to the remote and not using part of the linkage on the ROPS model.

But it's something you can look for when you have a change to try one out.

 

[K5lwq]

Well I did just that. I decided to go to my local dealer and he had a 4815C in stock. I managed to test drive and although it did not have remotes I confirmed 2 are available. No detent or float but not a deal breaker. I did work the remotes in a 5220 and did notice they were stiff. One was spring to center the other was detent and had to be put back center manually. It had cables to mechanical linkage as you described. The remotes for the 4815 will be all linkage with no cables. Best I can tell is it will be a fairly straight shot so should not be much of an issue.

In this case going OEM on the remotes looks to be the best option.

The loader valve was smooth and so no issues whatsoever. I don't know if they have upgraded it from some other post I have read or what. But it seems to be fine.

Overall a very nice machine and will fit my needs just fine. Now all I need is money. :thumbsup:

 

[Cougsfan]

On the Cab versions, I believe the extra linkage to put the levers on a better spot for the operation is creating some issues.

You may be right, ptsg. The 4720 cab uses cables. They are quite hard to pull or push. They are not spring loaded back to center. The detent in the center position is almost non-existent so you can't easily find center when you are working the controls, or you think you have the controls centered but you don't and the cylinders keep moving. I don't know how many times I have looked back and found my top link fully contracted or extended when I had it set it somewhere near the middle. To make maters worse, the 3 point looses it's lift when the cylinder is fully extended or retracted and the controls are still engaged. Fine control requires much concentration, which is hard to do if the tractor is moving. And when you do have it set, you have to stare at it for a a few moments to be sure it doesn't keep moving. I don't think it is a matter of adjustment, it is just a poor design with wrong leverages, no centering springs and weak detents. The FEL uses the same type of cable. The FEL isn't the best I have seen for fine control, but it works and it runs circles around the rear remotes. Again, this may just be my tractor, but it sure does stink, and I don't think I can improve it without tossing the whole linkage system, but I have no idea of what to replace it with. If your system is different, be thankful.

 

[ptsg]

Have you tried to spray WD 40 or something similar to inside the cables? It does look like the cables are running dry or got moisture into it making things hard to move.

The only spring to make it return to center is just the one on the valve, if the cables create enough drag, I can see how the spring won't have enough force to overcome all the leverage.

 

[Cougsfan]

I will try lubing the cables although they are fairly enclosed. Been that way since new, so I never thought they should be binding. Maybe I can find some stronger springs too.

Hope you get that 4815C, K5. Sounds like an upgrade to the 4720C, which overall is a pretty good tractor. The Branson site doesn't even have a picture of it so post a picture if you do get it.

 

[K5lwq]

Thanks Cougs, I hope it works out as well. We are finalizing the year and meeting with our accounting team at work. I will know more after this week if it makes sense or not.

I am not sure the 4815c is a improvement over the 4720ch. The remotes might be smoother just because of location. The thing I noticed on the 20 series is the cables run to the back of the fender and do a 180 to the valve linkage. That probably adds to the stiffness of the levers. Hopefully lubricant helps your issues. Please let us know what you find.