Traction 4310 No 4x4

[doppler46]

Shame on me I hit a stump in the pasture. I broke the suction screen housing which they call a cap. Also I broke the lever and actuator that engages the 4 wheel drive. Many dollars later I received the new parts. When I removed the roll pin from lever I pulled out on the shaft and rotated it. Well i must have miss aligned the gears because I do not have 4 wheel drive and the lever just turns freely. Do I now have an internal problem and have to take the transfer apart or is there a procedure to align the shaft and gears. Thanks! Merry Christmas!

 

[TractorGuy]

Which transmission do you have?

You can try looking the parts up at Deere to see if it explains the problem.

John Deere Parts Catalog

 

[doppler46]

Which transmission do you have?

You can try looking the parts up at Deere to see if it explains the problem.

John Deere Parts Catalog

I have the ehydro. I check that thanks.

 

[TractorGuy]

Okay here is the parts page for your eHydro MFWD selector.
John Deere Parts Catalog

I haven't located the shift lever for the eHydro in the service manual but it looks to be similar if not the same as the power reverser.
This is the photo they have of that.

Sounds like you moved the shaft and disengaged that shift shoe from the collar. You might be able to feel your way through getting it back in the slot. If that little shoe falls out you will most likely have to split the tractor to fix it. The shoe I am referencing is illustration #4 on the parts page.

 

[doppler46]

Okay here is the parts page for your eHydro MFWD selector.
John Deere Parts Catalog

I haven't located the shift lever for the eHydro in the service manual but it looks to be similar if not the same as the power reverser.
This is the photo they have of that.
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Sounds like you moved the shaft and disengaged that shift shoe from the collar. You might be able to feel your way through getting it back in the slot. If that little shoe falls out you will most likely have to split the tractor to fix it. The shoe I am referencing is illustration #4 on the parts page.

Interesting I am going to research that. Thanks.

 

[TractorGuy]

I'm thinking I should make some skid plates for mine before doing any rough terrain work with it.

 

[doppler46]

#14 is the lever I was replacing and #5 is the shaft I pulled and misaligned. So how do I correct this?

 

[beenthere]

Intriguing problem.. is it possible to get a Borescope into that area to see what is happening, and also to see how to re-align the shoe. In hopes to avoid splitting. Not a predicament I'd like to be in.

Surprised that shaft could come out easily.. and that removing the spring pin holding the lever arm didn't allow removal of the broken arm and replacement of the new one.
Or is that one of those "in hind-sight, if I'd only known" cases??

 

[pmsmechanic]

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[pmsmechanic]

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#14 is the lever I was replacing and #5 is the shaft I pulled and misaligned. So how do I correct this?

#4 should be in the grove of the collar of #6. Before I split the tractor I would take the rear PTO housing off. It's not hard to do and i'm sure you would be able to poke #4 into place without splitting the tractor. You might need to pull the whole PTO clutch assembly out of the rear differential housing to get enough room. You will need to remove the pin on #14 again and push the #5 shaft back in enough to be able to slide #4 into the grove. Then just be careful as you put everything back together again.

I've removed the whole PTO clutch assembly on my 4410 for some repairs. It's not difficult, it's just fiddly work. You should have a service manual and follow the directions in there.

 

[doppler46]

I have order the manual so hopefully in a few days it will be here and things will be clearer than mud. I am glad to hear disassembly isn’t that hard. Thanks.

 

[TractorGuy]

That is good news that worst case may not have to split the tractor.

I would definitely look into the possibility of getting a scope in to verify the location of the foot first. I have a cheap cell phone scope that might work but it hasn't been particularly useful yet.

I tore the suction hose off my backhoe a few years back driving into the rough stuff. Dumped 28 gallons of hydraulic oil and had to waller around on a tarp underneath the thing to fix it. Since then I try to work my way in from the edges.

 

[doppler46]

When I said I pulled the shaft I meant approximately 6 inches. That’s as far as it pulls out. I have a backhoe in this tractor. It’s been on for several years. Works great around the farm. I’m going to wait until I get the manual to see if there are better pictures and options for repairs.

 

[TractorGuy]

Looking at the illustration from my service manual it seems it wouldn't pull out at all unless it had already been rotated far enough to disengage the shifting shoe (4) from the sliding sleeve (6).

EDIT: I just noticed the shifting shoe (4) should be retained by a push nut (2) so maybe it is still in the lever (1). You may have rotated the shaft 180 degrees when you put the roll pin back in. You might be able to disconnect the lever, rotate it 180 degrees, then push the shaft all the way in and see if it will engage the slot when you rotate it back in place. Be gentle while feeling for the shaft engagement and you should be okay. Once you feel the shoe hitting the sleeve it might take a few tries to get it to turn right and go in the slot.