Plastic Gas containers and Plastic liners in Pickups?

stuckmotor · Dec 30, 2019

4570Man said:
Diesel won’t ignite like that. Locally the truck station has hoses that are probably 20 feet. Everyone fills tanks in the back of their truck. How else are you going to fill a tank that holds 50 gallons or more?

In that case, I'm back with the "they're too cheap to buy a longer hose" theory.

oosik · Dec 30, 2019

I've always set my five gallon plastic gas jugs on the ground to fill. The five gallon jerry cans stay in the bed of the pickup when I fill with diesel.

shooterdon · Dec 31, 2019

I have a liner in my aluminum bed F150. My 50 gallon diesel tank sits on a wooden frame I can lift with my forks. I may not need it, but I will be making a grounding strap to connect the tank with the bed. Better safe than sorry.

BTW, I had a fuel station on my 5th wheel toy hauler. It had a grounding strap for fueling the UTV. Did not need a grounding strap when filling the tanks on the 5th wheel (generator or fuel station) as it was likely grounded through the 7 port plug.

That has me thinking....can I ground my diesel tank by plunging a line to the trailer hook up?

oldballs · Dec 31, 2019

Seems like I remember gasoline transport trucks that had a chain with a metal circular piece (like a wheel bearing) hanging from the rear frame of the truck. It dangled and hit the pavement as the truck traveled, making a clanging noise as it moved along. Must have
had something to do with this very same subject.

Diggin It · Dec 31, 2019

oldballs said:
Seems like I remember gasoline transport trucks that had a chain with a metal circular piece (like a wheel bearing) hanging from the rear frame of the truck. It dangled and hit the pavement as the truck traveled, making a clanging noise as it moved along. Must have
had something to do with this very same subject.

Let's just hope it was something that didn't cause sparks.

I seem to remember ground straps/wires on some older cars or trucks.

shooterdon · Dec 31, 2019

Grounding to the truck bed does not make sense to me. The tires act as insulators to ground. Static built up during fueling needs to go to the ground that the pump is grounded to. So grounding is needed between the container being filled and the nozzle filling it. If the pump nozzle is in contact with a metal fill spout on the tank, static cannot build up. Or am I missing something?

lman · Dec 31, 2019

So that's why Amish use tractors with steel wheels. Not good with lightning during a thunderstorm, though.

Deere Dude · Dec 31, 2019

Gas stations could make life easier for the user if they had a 3' stand or shelf by fuel pumps for setting 5-6 gal. cans on. Great eye opening video by the way.

ovrszd · Dec 31, 2019

shooterdon said:
I have a liner in my aluminum bed F150. My 50 gallon diesel tank sits on a wooden frame I can lift with my forks. I may not need it, but I will be making a grounding strap to connect the tank with the bed. Better safe than sorry.

BTW, I had a fuel station on my 5th wheel toy hauler. It had a grounding strap for fueling the UTV. Did not need a grounding strap when filling the tanks on the 5th wheel (generator or fuel station) as it was likely grounded through the 7 port plug.

That has me thinking....can I ground my diesel tank by plunging a line to the trailer hook up?

Isn't the issue the fact that the jug tries to ground back thru the fuel hose because it's not grounded when sitting in the pickup bed? This being because the pickup isn't grounded when sitting on rubber tires?

If so your toy hauler isn't grounded thru the 7 port plug. It's simply "ground connected" to the ungrounded truck that's pulling it?

If so, adding a wire from your tank to the trailer hook up won't do any goog?