Trying to decide on new tractor got it down to two I think kubota grand 3560 or mahindra 1635hst no cabs/with a loader only on either tractor,,always had kubotas but I am not sure on the DPF on the kubotas anyone with pros and cons of each thanks
Requirements drive solutions. Until you specify your requirements nobody can tell you what's best.
Kubota Grand or Mahindra. Is this even a real debate? 的 bought a Mahindra because it was the best said no one ever. BTW there痴 no free lunch with the emissions on the Mahindra. They take a different approach but they have to meet the same standards.
People keep saying that but from a technical design perspective some solutions are better than others. Given what i know of diesel engines and my experience with on road diesels, given a choice I would always pick the design without a DPF. I don't have experience with the Mahindra system itself, but a common rail system equipped with DOC and EGR is equivalent to pickup diesels from the mid-2000s, which are some of the most reliable in existence.
Dont fall into mahindra doesnt have a a DPF gimick.
I wouldn't call it a gimmick. Depending on his requirements the DPF could be a legit issue. In on road trucks the DPF is the single most problematic piece of emissions equipment and they do eventually have to be cleaned and/or replaced. Looking at the various implementations, I get the impression a lot of manufacturers are using DPFs because they don't want to invest in redesigning their engines. I suspect that when the EPA inevitably clamps down again you'll see a lot more manufacturers redesign to common rail setups potentially with SCR added.
Search on market share shows in (Wikipedia) that Mahindra is the largest selling tractor manufacturer by volume in the world.
Mahindra sells a pile of those 4025s to India and other developing markets that have a lot of small farms. That 4025 is darn near a part for part copy of a 1960s International ag tractor. Friend of mine has one of those and says it's just as rugged as you'd expect a 1960s ag tractor to be.
Technically, Mahindra and Kubota are tackling the soot emissions problem differently, that's all it is. There are compromises both ways. Twenty years from now we will know which was right.
rScotty
I can almost guarantee you that the common rail setup is the way forward. They'll all be common rail with EGR, DOC, DPF and SCR. From what I can tell off road runs about 15-20 years behind on road in emissions requirements and that setup is where on road trucks are now.
When the EPA clamps down again, and you know they will eventually, everybody is going to have to move to a common rail setup. Once you hit a certain emissions standard, controlling the combustion process via multiple injection events is the only way to meet emissions, while maintaining power, without overloading the after treatment systems.
