Branson 2400h - Transmission, Steering, Front axle fluid

[gdrew]

Hello, I'm getting ready to do a HST/Hydraulic filter & fluid change on my Branson 2400h and was wondering if there are good quality suitable "after market" fluids available?

The following is an excerpt from the Service Manual (00 series - Chassis) found on this site, thank you to whoever posted it here!

Transmission, Steering, Front axle fluid - Branson origin oil
-Texaco TDH oil, 1893
-Chevron Tractor HYD Fluid

I don't have the luxury of having a Branson dealer anywhere near me but there are lots of other shopping options such as Wal-Mart, Canadian Tire etc. I looked at the Wal-Mart and Canadian Tire selection yesterday but didn't see any Texaco or Chevron oils.

Just wondering if there are any other suitable brands and perhaps brands/types to be avoided such as 303?

These are two of the products I saw yesterday.

Thanks!

 

[RjCorazza]

The first set of pictures show a hydraulic oil, which is NOT suitable for use in a tractor transmission / hydraulic sump.

The SuperTech product IS intended for tractor transmission / hydraulic use, but I was not able to read the lable to see what specs it meets.

 

[LouNY]

The easiest spec to look for would be that a product exceeds JD Hygard C for hydraulic and transmission.

Hy-Gard oil can be used in most applications calling for 10W-30 or 5W-30 engine oil for transmission and hydraulic oils. Note: Hy-Gard should be used in all applications calling for JDM J20C

 

[ericm979]

"premium" tractor fluid should have the right additives for our wet brakes and PTO clutches. Those are missing from hydraulic fluid.

I could not get the Texaco or Chevron stuff locally (my manual says Chevron THF1000). I ended up with Mobilfluid 424 which is very similar to THF1000 according to the data sheets. I found it on Amazon.

Napa stores can get THF1000 but I think you need to be in an area with enough ag. The stores down in the city here didn't want to deal with it.

 

[gdrew]

Okay, thanks guys I'll put out a few more feelers and see if I can find something over the weekend. This seems more complicated than it needs to be. I suppose that's just the way it is when you're new at...well anything.

I figured the WWW would have a cross reference list when I search for Texaco TDH oil, 1893 of other equivalent brands, but things aren't always as simple as they sometimes seem.

 

[Cougsfan]

It isn't really that complicated. If you search the threads you will find all sorts of people saying you should only use "this" brand because it is far superior to "that" brand. I would not place much credence on those types of comments. As Rj mentioned, hydraulic fluid is not the same as Universal Tractor Fluid. Other than that, if it is listed as "universal tractor fluid", is most likely OK. In the US, SuperTech does meet the specs. Premium name brands such as Texaco or Vavoline are are probably safer if you don't want to check out the specs in detail. But I always used the less expensive store brands that usually cost a lot less, and have never had a Tractor Fluid related problem in thousands of hours of tractor use. If Canadian Tire didn't have what you need in stock at almost every store, I'd be highly surprised.

 

[Texasmark]

The easiest spec to look for would be that a product exceeds JD Hygard C for hydraulic and transmission.

Hy-Gard oil can be used in most applications calling for 10W-30 or 5W-30 engine oil for transmission and hydraulic oils. Note: Hy-Gard should be used in all applications calling for JDM J20C

That's the spec I look for and if any spec is on the can, J20C will be the one. Yes, 303 is not for hydrostatic steering or tranny applications. TSC Premium TDH fluid is a suitable fluid and the one I am currently using where Premium is required.

On the front gearbox, my 2016 2400 owner's manual specifically states 90w gear oil and the fill plug on the gearbox even has 90W embossed on it. That's a change in thinking from 2007 where my 6530 OM was listed as the same oil as is used elsewhere (excepting for engine lube).

 

[gdrew]

I was advised that 80w90 was suitable even though my 2400 also has 90w embossed on the fill plug.

 

[LouNY]

I was advised that 80w90 was suitable even though my 2400 also has 90w embossed on the fill plug.

I'm using a synthetic 75W-140 at the present time have used the 80W-90 often.

 

[gdrew]

I'm using a synthetic 75W-140 at the present time have used the 80W-90 often.

Good to know , thanks!

 

[gdrew]

I took a better picture of the back label of the Wal-Mart Super TECH oil that says it suitable for John Deere, Massey Ferguson, Case ect. so I'm thinking it will be good to go in the 2400h...

 

[Texasmark]

I was advised that 80w90 was suitable even though my 2400 also has 90w embossed on the fill plug.

Me too.

 

[Asteral]

so when we service Bransons Here We use the following Oils.
Engine 10w40 or 15w40 Diesel Engine Oil (Depends on what the customer has been using)
Front Axle - 80w90 or 85w140 Gear Oil ( Depends on what the customer has been using)
Transmission/Hydraulics - Premium Tractor Hydraulic( NO 303 Oils)

 

[ignitzme]

thank you.

 

[lfson]

When one sees 10W40, or 80W90, the oil weight is actually the first number, but has additives (one example is STP) which makes the oil perform at the high temperature specification temperature preform the same as the larger second number. I think these numbers are 25C and 100C (been 45 years since engineering school, so....). For example; 10W40 has the 10 weight viscosity at the lower temperature, but 40 weight at 100C. With out the additive, the high temperature viscosity would be much lower.

Hope this helps

 

[Texasmark]

The easiest spec to look for would be that a product exceeds JD Hygard C for hydraulic and transmission.

Hy-Gard oil can be used in most applications calling for 10W-30 or 5W-30 engine oil for transmission and hydraulic oils. Note: Hy-Gard should be used in all applications calling for JDM J20C

When buying fluid, the only spec I look for is the J20C. If it has that I'm good to go.