China Corona virus

[herm0016]

2629 / 79774 = 3% The 9% on that worldometer website excludes "active cases"

That's not how that works. recovered over dead would be a better measure of death rate. you can't count people who are active, you don't know if they will be in the dead or recovered column.

 

[fatjay]

Coronavirus Live Updates: U.S. Officials Warn Americans to Brace for Likely Outbreak - The New York Times

You can't guess the death rate yet. At this point it's pure speculation, there's just not enough info.

 

[MinnesotaEric]

You'd think an engineered bioweapon would shoot for a bit higher than 3%, no?


Tin Foil Hat Gang: 'Well, it wasn't really ready yet, they were still working on it ....'

3% number is in error from failing to set-up the problem correctly. Of those infections that had a result (lived or died), 91% lived and 9% died. Therefore there is currently a 9% survival rate.

 

[MinnesotaEric]

Coronavirus Live Updates: U.S. Officials Warn Americans to Brace for Likely Outbreak - The New York Times

You can't guess the death rate yet. At this point it's pure speculation, there's just not enough info.

Can't guess the death rate? Huh? Whose guessing? of the 30,620 closed cases, 27,909 (91%) survived (some with lifelong scarring of the lungs) and 2,711 (9%) died as a result of contracting the Coronavirus.

There is no guesswork here, this is math. How big of a distribution of closed cases do you think we need before we can draw a conclusion on the percentage of fatalities?

 

[sd455dan]

Found this quote

As of (Feb 23), the US remains extremely limited in COVID19 testing.

Only 3 of ~100 public health labs have @CDC test kits working, and CDC is not sharing what went wrong with the kits.

How would we know if COVID19 is spreading here if we are not looking for it.

 

[Steppenwolfe]

I've been watching the Ebola outbreak in Africa since 2018, specifically the Democratic Republic of the Congo (DRC) where it borders Uganda. The WHO has said the same thing there about not limiting international travel or trade. Uganda imposed restrictions anyway and has been mostly free of the ravages of the disease. When a case does show up, they are quick to contain it and all the associated people. It turns out that in those cases the person crossed the border in a place the government didn't know about. (As in illegal alien status). In that disease outbreak, WHO was slow to do anything and claimed that it needed more money. Several nations ignored WHO and provided the help they could which did far more to control Ebola than anything WHO did. I don't know if there is any corruption, but it does seem that the organization is not doing what it was originally chartered to do.

And as for China buying into Ethopia, yes, they're doing it and setting themselves up for a permanent presence in Africa. Even Namibia on the opposite side of Africa from Ethopia is trying to contend with the Chinese and has sent several high ranking officials home. Keep in mind that Africa has a lot of natural resources and China is poised to be the primary controller of these resources.

China is after the rare Earth metals, all of our future technology will depend on them. U.S. dependence on China's rare earth: Trade war vulnerability - Reuters

 

[/pine]

The deposits of rare earth elements in the seabed far surpass any deposits found on terra firma to date...

 

[Diggin It]

Wow Dude, that's kinda' deep.

 

[Ford850]

Can't guess the death rate? Huh? Whose guessing? of the 30,620 closed cases, 27,909 (91%) survived (some with lifelong scarring of the lungs) and 2,711 (9%) died as a result of contracting the Coronavirus.

There is no guesswork here, this is math. How big of a distribution of closed cases do you think we need before we can draw a conclusion on the percentage of fatalities?

The problem is the wide range of severity with this illness compared to previous viruses. Most in the past have left little doubt when someone had a possible case, and had to be tested. This current virus affects many in such a minor way, with a mild sore throat for example, that they never get tested or request treatment. But they continue to spread to others. So we count those we test, and those severely sick or who have died. How will we every know a true number of those infected? The South Korea test might be the best so far, if they test and monitor the entire group.

 

[MinnesotaEric]

The problem is the wide range of severity with this illness compared to previous viruses. Most in the past have left little doubt when someone had a possible case, and had to be tested. This current virus affects many in such a minor way, with a mild sore throat for example, that they never get tested or request treatment. But they continue to spread to others. So we count those we test, and those severely sick or who have died. How will we every know a true number of those infected? The South Korea test might be the best so far, if they test and monitor the entire group.

Even so, of the closed cases that have been counted, there is a 9% death rate.