Before I get the rock.

   / Before I get the rock. #1  

brian3180

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Last summer this area had a few high spots that I ripped out to prevent puddling. We have been getting lots of rain and this is what I have now. I’m getting a few loads of rock/road base this week or next. What should I do to prepare? Thanks. IMG_0011.jpgIMG_0010.jpgATTACH]
 

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   / Before I get the rock. #2  
First thing would be to find and make a way for the water to drain away from the road. Otherwise you will never get this to dry out. Get rid of that top layer of muddy soil. Then get some 3/4 inch stone and make a good base for the soft areas. You have to get down to a stable layer of soil, otherwise the new stone put down will just sink. Once packed down then lay down some smaller stone for the road.
 
   / Before I get the rock. #3  
Looks like you need a drainage ditch on the muddy side to me. Have a good box blade? Get to pullin! I would cut a ditch that follow the road a good ways out past each end of the muddy section. Hard to tell which way water would flow from your pics, but maybe you can tell in person (or use a level/transit). Then get any bad mud/muck off your road, and pull it all up into a nice crown BEFORE you get your stone delivered on top of it.
 
   / Before I get the rock. #4  
Last summer this area had a few high spots that I ripped out to prevent puddling. We have been getting lots of rain and this is what I have now. I’m getting a few loads of rock/road base this week or next. What should I do to prepare? Thanks. View attachment 642835View attachment 642836ATTACH]

The THREE most important things about roadways/driveways are......DITCHES...DITCHES...DITCHES!
 
   / Before I get the rock. #5  
Add logging ballast to the road,, before you add the gravel.
My logging guys hauled over 160 loads of logs over logging ballast,, during the wettest year on record.

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I have a beautiful road there today,,,
 
   / Before I get the rock. #6  
3" to 4" rock for base. I agree, get the muddy dirt out of there and cut a drain to the pond (if you can).
 
   / Before I get the rock. #7  
Watch how the County and Highways build roads. First they build up the road with good clean clay. Usually red clay since it compacts so well and sheds water once compacted. Dig ditches so the water has somewhere to go. Ounce you have to road built up with dirt, add rock to the top of it. Where I'm at in East Texas, 4 inches is the minimum thickness for it to lock together. I've found that crushed concrete works a lot better then limestone or cliche.
 
   / Before I get the rock. #8  
Without road fabric about anything you import will end up pushing more mud up. Excavate the mud, fix the drainage, lay fabric 8-12” below finish road grade and import road base.
 
   / Before I get the rock. #9  
Without road fabric about anything you import will end up pushing more mud up. Excavate the mud, fix the drainage, lay fabric 8-12” below finish road grade and import road base.
Add 5lbs of rock to 5lbs of mud & you get 10lbs of mud. You need to drain the water away so the base doesn't turn to mud & keep the rock from sinking in. The half of my driveway I put geotextile under is doing good. The rest isnt doing great, even after a couple loads of rock. I need to redo it with some geotextile & better ditching before I put in more rock.

Geotextile is beefier than landscape fabric you'll find at the big box stores. Looks like a blue tarp, only black & a looser water permeable weave.
 
   / Before I get the rock. #10  
Without road fabric about anything you import will end up pushing more mud up. Excavate the mud, fix the drainage, lay fabric 8-12” below finish road grade and import road base.

Bingo, this is the way.
You could try and cheap out with just 4 to 6 inches over heavy duty fabric but more is better.
 

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