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[Gordon Gould]

The legal definition of a thrown cord is 180 cubic feet. I don't know how you're supposed to measure that though, after it's been dumped onto your driveway out of 4570Man's ton truck.

I've have never seen that written anywhere either, but it would be very close to the 2/3's rule J mac mentioned. For me it is really hard to judge a pile of blocks.

gg

 

[John_Mc]

The legal definition of a thrown cord is 180 cubic feet. I don't know how you're supposed to measure that though, after it's been dumped onto your driveway out of 4570Man's ton truck.

128 cu ft / 180 cu ft = 71%. Which is fairly close to the rule of thumb I mentioned earlier that we figured you could fit 2/3 as much wood thrown into a space as you could neatly stacking it. (If I carefully pack a full-sized, 8 foot pickup bed, I can get a half cord in it. Thrown in to the same level, I get about 1/3 cord.)

A lot of times what we end up with is "carefully thrown in": we don't stack it, but we do put just a little effort into making sure all the nooks and crannies are filled and that we are not creating large voids when we toss stuff in. We can bring the percentage up a bit from 2/3, but not a whole lot. Maybe up to as much as 3/4? I've never really measured that one. Usually, that "carefully thrown in" method is what we do when we want to move the most wood in the least number of trips with minimal hassle. It works OK for a pickup truck where you can reach easily from the ground. If I were loading a larger truck, that method would not be very practical.

 

[John_Mc]

Couldn’t you do it by weight as well?

In a lot of states, the cord is the only legally acceptable measure for sale of firewood.
Further, the weight varies dramatically by species and how dry it is.

 

[Jstpssng]

I've have never seen that written anywhere either, but it would be very close to the 2/3's rule J mac mentioned. For me it is really hard to judge a pile of blocks.

gg

128 cu ft / 180 cu ft = 71%. Which is fairly close to the rule of thumb I mentioned earlier that we figured you could fit 2/3 as much wood thrown into a space as you could neatly stacking it. (If I carefully pack a full-sized, 8 foot pickup bed, I can get a half cord in it. Thrown in to the same level, I get about 1/3 cord.)

I took a log scaling course about 15 years ago and firewood measurement was included. They said that while firewood is the least valuable woods product it generates the largest amount of complaints.

 

[JimR]

Ok then so it wasn't just me that notice vibration from them older saws.
I bought that same 346xp I think back in 08-09, nice little saw but burnt up in my shop in March 13, I was going replace with same saw but Husqvarna replaced it with a 550xp, so bought that and it turned out to be on the lemon side, that same 550xp got wore out in Nov. 18. I replace with another 550xp that runs better last Jan 2019 and then sometime around April 2019 Husqvarna came out with a new improved 550xp, THEY say.

It looks like you had your fare share Huskys. In the last 40+ years I've about 6-8 Huskys, 2 Jonsered's, had 1 lemon Stihl in 90s so all in all I had pretty good luck with Husqvarna.

Yup, I like them Husky's. Any problems that I have had were of my own undoing. Like buying gas for future cutting and forgetting to put oil in it before I used it. That cost me a piston and jug on the 262XP. I have a very old Titan chainsaw that will numb hands within minutes. That belonged to my FIL. He would not use that saw. I've used it once or twice way back when the Mac1010 was acting up. Using it without hearing protection could make a person go deaf. There is no muffler on it. I heard that there were issues with the early 550XP saws. Although the local saw shop denied it. I wouldn't admit it either if I was selling that product line.

 

[Jstpssng]

I had a 346 for 3 years until I lost the crankshaft. They told me that it wasn't worth the price of repairs, but I really liked that saw and should have taken it someplace where they would actually fix it. I then took my 254 in, and they told me the crank was also gone in that. That was around the time when we started getting E-10 gas, so I'm not sure if the two are related or not.

 

[JimR]

128 cu ft / 180 cu ft = 71%. Which is fairly close to the rule of thumb I mentioned earlier that we figured you could fit 2/3 as much wood thrown into a space as you could neatly stacking it. (If I carefully pack a full-sized, 8 foot pickup bed, I can get a half cord in it. Thrown in to the same level, I get about 1/3 cord.)

A lot of times what we end up with is "carefully thrown in": we don't stack it, but we do put just a little effort into making sure all the nooks and crannies are filled and that we are not creating large voids when we toss stuff in. We can bring the percentage up a bit from 2/3, but not a whole lot. Maybe up to as much as 3/4? I've never really measured that one. Usually, that "carefully thrown in" method is what we do when we want to move the most wood in the least number of trips with minimal hassle. It works OK for a pickup truck where you can reach easily from the ground. If I were loading a larger truck, that method would not be very practical.

I've been harvesting my own firewood since back in 1973. I can attest to the depletion of a huge pile of wood once it is split and stacked up. When you are all done you sit back and say, I could have sworn I had more wood than that.

 

[Skeans1]

In a lot of states, the cord is the only legally acceptable measure for sale of firewood.
Further, the weight varies dramatically by species and how dry it is.

You can convert cords to tons how else do you think the lake states figure out how many cords are on the cribs trucks?

 

[Skeans1]

I took a log scaling course about 15 years ago and firewood measurement was included. They said that while firewood is the least valuable woods product it generates the largest amount of complaints.

Did they explain Scribner C to you?

 

[Thunder chicken]

128 cu ft / 180 cu ft = 71%. Which is fairly close to the rule of thumb I mentioned earlier that we figured you could fit 2/3 as much wood thrown into a space as you could neatly stacking it. (If I carefully pack a full-sized, 8 foot pickup bed, I can get a half cord in it. Thrown in to the same level, I get about 1/3 cord.)

A lot of times what we end up with is "carefully thrown in": we don't stack it, but we do put just a little effort into making sure all the nooks and crannies are filled and that we are not creating large voids when we toss stuff in. We can bring the percentage up a bit from 2/3, but not a whole lot. Maybe up to as much as 3/4? I've never really measured that one. Usually, that "carefully thrown in" method is what we do when we want to move the most wood in the least number of trips with minimal hassle. It works OK for a pickup truck where you can reach easily from the ground. If I were loading a larger truck, that method would not be very practical.

as far as legal, i think every state and province has its own rules. Here, it should be measured in cubic decametres, or cubic meters say wha?!
I have a 6x10 dump with high side boards. i've dumped it a few times and stacked and measured it. i've also measured customers wood after they've stacked it. around 180 cubic feet of 16" length makes a cord. for 14" i eyeball a little less. for 12", i eyeball a bit less and usually end up giving them way more than a cord. my trailer will hold 200 cu'ft, for 18" when she's slightly rounded that seems to work. bigger than that and i sell it as a 'trailer load'.
I've heard everything from 160-200 cu-ft loose per stacked cord. i've heard people say they measure up a cord of 8' logs, cut and split it and sell that as a cord. (it will work out a bit less). When i buy 8' logs, i figure 'loosing' a cord on a 10 cord load of logs.
when in doubt, round up the trailer a bit, or stack it if the customer is fussy. 'Just give them the pickle!!!'